DemocracyMattersALot , (edited )
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Look, I am not an advocate of violence at all. But I have to ask and wonder...

Is it better to wait for Jefferson Davis to take the White House?

Do we wait until the traitor commands the US Military?

Is it better to wait until another country is drawn into our internal conflict militarily?

Is it better to wait until people have been exterminated?

What happens if Trump wins again, assisted by traitors in the House, Senate, and Supreme Court?

Asking for a concerned 300 million.

Hey_Beth ,
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@DemocracyMattersALot

The Handmaid's Tale provides us with answers. Gilead was not the entire United States. It did not include the West Coast.

I believe that our country is at the brink of something horrible, but Blue States will remain Blue.

ralfmaximus ,
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aggualaqisaaq ,
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When all viable means of democratic adjustment have been exhausted and the justice system can no longer be counted on to be just, then recourse to political violence, in the face of existential threats and gross injustice, becomes legitimate.

I don't know if we are there yet, but are definitely fast approaching that point. I say it's better to go down fighting than to meekly succumb to this fascist cancer

DemocracyMattersALot OP ,
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@aggualaqisaaq

Yes, that's where I am. Only question is timing.

palin ,
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We need to make sure that doesn't happen so everyone needs to go out of their way and demand that he steps down.
Please get everyone on board to start calling your representatives and Senators...
Daily
Start sending postcards to voters...
Donate whatever you can.

DemocracyMattersALot OP ,
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@palin

May want to clarify—you mean Trump step down, yes?

palin ,
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Oh yes !!
We do not need a convicted felon being in a position that our children and grandchildren are supposed to admire.
And since the SCOTUS decided that he is not immune from the foreign emoluments clause...
He needs to be charged for this immediately.

EmilyK ,
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Looks to me like @palin is a disinfo troll and should be blocked on site.

Even if they say the things you agree with (for now), they're still disinfo trolls.

DemocracyMattersALot OP ,
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@EmilyK

You’re wrong. Very wrong.

@palin

Smootasaurus ,
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@DemocracyMattersALot I get it. The point isn't that we should be seeking violence.

We need to see something "outrageous" from POTUS. NOW. Something like emergency executive order expanding SCOTUS. But it's got to be a decisive action that reinforces to America that their vote won't be wasted. And my strategy has always been - the best defense is a better offense ☺️

opethminded ,
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@DemocracyMattersALot Civil disobedience doesn’t have to be violent.

DemocracyMattersALot OP ,
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@opethminded

Amen. Maybe we can grind the economy to a halt. But what do we demand, and who can fulfill our demands?

opethminded ,
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@DemocracyMattersALot Demand the removal of corrupt Thomas and the addition of 4 justices. Prosecution of Trump. Removal of insurrectionists from Congress. Fix the Electoral College. But why stop there really? Ask for more, you get some. Those who don’t demand anything at all, however, are guaranteed nothing.

DemocracyMattersALot OP ,
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@opethminded

Trouble is there is no legal path to remove them, unless 2/3 of Senate approve impeachment.

opethminded ,
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@DemocracyMattersALot Oh we’re only going to make reasonable demands then, because of rules that they ALWAYS follow. Well I’m so sure they’ll only reply with due civility and decorum then.

Who cares the logistics??? Haul his ass before every fn committee in both houses all session long until he drops and if he ignores subpoenas throw him in a jail and let him rule from his cell. Are we really gonna bring knives to this gun fight??? Theres a Republic at stake!!!

DemocracyMattersALot OP ,
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@opethminded

I agree. But that does necessitate violence. Republicans are not just going to stand by while we rewrite the rules without procedure.

jpanzer ,
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@DemocracyMattersALot @opethminded Yes, but we can neutralize them. Take away all but their original jurisdiction via legislation. Expand the Court. Enforce ethics rules with teeth.

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