futurebird ,
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Mask Bans?

I can't even process this one. It's hard to get people to wear masks. Why

I just CAN NOT.

thedansimonson ,
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@futurebird

https://essaysyoudidntwanttoread.home.blog/2024/06/21/to-ban-or-not-to-ban-when-the-issue-is-masks-theres-really-no-question/

“when people are triggered by threat cues [ie, masks] in consumer spaces, their purchasing behavior changes. Folks engage in “discretionary thrift,” switching from more to less expensive goods... They avoid consumer items they haven’t tried before, which are often bought on impulse. They linger less long in stores...”

futurebird OP ,
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What is next? A ban on not hiring Typhoid Mary to make your lunch?

futurebird OP ,
@futurebird@sauropods.win avatar

I'm over here struggling with the moral tension between individual rights and public health and these people are like f BOTH those things:

mask ban

CatHat ,
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@futurebird American politicians HATE rights AND public health

justafrog ,
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@futurebird I always knew my degree in necromancy would be relevant, some day.

iwein ,
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@futurebird to add insult to injury, the supporters of this are mostly also against gun bans.

These are the people that want to see the world burn. If you believe those are real, then it all starts to make sense.

tuban_muzuru ,

@futurebird

I knew a brilliant woman, an attorney, specialized to family law. She got out of it and went to criminal defense work: she was sick of doing these divorces. The spite, the cruelty, the damage it did to the kids -

It's easy to see why these bastards would make masks an issue, once you've come to terms with all that.

VirginiaHolloway ,

@futurebird "But how will we reach herd immunity against typhoid if Mary's not cooking for us?"

llewelly ,
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@futurebird
it's not specifically related to covid19, but the GOP has spent decades attacking safety regulations on food, and they will surely continue those efforts.

michael_w_busch ,
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@futurebird We currently have a contingent of people loudly declaiming that they will drink raw milk full of H5N1 influenza.

It is not great.

Kaetchi ,
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@futurebird next is have to drink unpasteurised 🥛

futurebird OP ,
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@Kaetchi With my luck it will be unpasteurized but still homogenized for some reason. I hate homogenized milk. It’s not creamy. I love pasteurized milk however because I’m a foodie not someone with a death wish.

sundiesel ,
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@futurebird @Kaetchi I drank unpasteurized EXACTLY ONCE and came down with a kind of infection that had to be reported to the State Department of Health.

So glad I survived to learn from it.

futurebird OP ,
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@sundiesel @Kaetchi

It's even more dangerous to people accustomed to pasteurized milk. Unpasteurized milk remains drinkable for perhaps 4 days, and even then you are still risking disease.

People think it "tastes better" simply because it must be drunk very fresh, and few people have had really fresh milk it is different, but it just as good when pasteurized.

And amazing if not homogenized.

ramsey ,
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@futurebird @sundiesel @Kaetchi How can you get unhomogenized milk? All milk in our stores is always pasteurized and homogenized.

futurebird OP ,
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@ramsey @sundiesel @Kaetchi

At some more fancy grocery stores you'll find it "pasteurized cream top" homogenization makes milk into an emulsion that won't separate into cream ... consumers find the separation unsettling so almost all milk is homogenized. But you just have to shake it.

Or use the cream on your morning biscuit, and drink the rest like 2 percent.

Mab_813 ,
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@futurebird @ramsey

Didn't know that unhomogenized milk is more difficult to get in some places, that's interesting. We have both pasteurized and homogenized options in normal grocery stores.
When I was a child, we got fresh raw milk directly from the next farm, it really tastes quite different. However, I won't defend that just because I was lucky.
We can learn new things and I wouldn't drink raw milk today.

SoniEx2 ,
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@futurebird @sundiesel @Kaetchi huh.

... we just drink shelf-stable.

thepoliticalcat ,
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@futurebird @sundiesel @Kaetchi We used to get our milk fresh from the cow. I never did like cow's milk much, and started showing digestive issues with it in my late teens. Oh, well.

dr2chase ,
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@futurebird @sundiesel @Kaetchi we grew up hand-milking a cow, unprocessed, it's about like 1% or 2% after the cream rises. Homogenized-whole is weird.

paulc ,
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@futurebird @sundiesel @Kaetchi reminds me that if you want a really good fresh peach you need to pick it off the tree and eat it right away. Even the peaches on the farm roadside stand is not as good.

I once tried making bagels. Learned that traditionally you should eat them 15 minutes after cooking. Not designed to last for long.

xilebo ,
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@futurebird
Perhaps, they have invested in facial recognition software...

Tattooed_Mummy ,
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@futurebird within a few years we've gone from a law you have to wear them to a law you are not allowed to

leadore ,
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@futurebird In NYC I think it's at least partially to do with "We spent all this money on a facial recognition network and by god we're not going to let pesky masks interfere with building our database."

futurebird OP ,
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@leadore well ya’ll sit there and cry for all I care.

AlgoCompSynth ,
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@futurebird The press needs to dig deep on this - there is big money behind mask bans, anti-vaxxers and other challenges to rational public health policy.

It's always been there - remember the anti-fluoridation campaigns in the 1950s? Somebody's getting rich off of this.

mozz Admin ,
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@futurebird The why is that their whole thing is signaling loyalty to the group, so that if you’re a member you are protected, and if not you can be openly attacked.

It actually works better if the signaling mechanism is something that puts your safety at risk, or stating as factual something that is clearly nonsense. If the mechanism were something that was a sensible thing to do anyway, it wouldn’t really mean anything about your level of loyalty to the group.

Bridger ,

@futurebird

Mask bans: it's called magical thinking.

MichaelTBacon ,
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@futurebird

I happen to know that pro-Palestinian protestors were asking that everyone wear masks at places like Duke University to keep everyone from getting doxed by hostile "journalists" taking pictures of faces.

I think the NC mask ban may be directly related to this.

ReverendMoose ,
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@futurebird I was thinking about this yesterday while commuting into the city. Not a lot of people still wear masks, but I feel like in Penn Station it's like 1-2%. Those people are going to avoid going into the city if mask bans come in the place, I know I would. The mayor keeps complaining not enough people commute into the city anymore and it's impacting the economy. So why try and turn off 1% of those who do.

AdeptVeritatis ,
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@futurebird

Someone compared wearing masks to being punk.
Then it becomes a little bit more obvious. The Mohawk is a sign for you not wanting to be part of their group.

It is similar to banning hijabs.

llewelly ,
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@futurebird
It's an easy way to attack leftists.

It's an easy way to leverage anti-asian racism.

It's an easy way to leverage the fabricated anger they've built up about the trivial covid19 precautions.

andrewfeeney ,
@andrewfeeney@phpc.social avatar

@futurebird

Oppositional Defiance as a Policy

ajsadauskas ,
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@futurebird A clear example of virtue signalling by easily offended snowflakes who want to use big government to shut down freedom of speech and freedom of expression.

They just keep pushing their agenda while infringing on the rights of ordinary freedom-loving citizens who don't agree with their "correct" political positions.

And whose tax dollars are going to be spent to enforce this agenda? It's yet another example of the kind of wasteful spending by fiscally reckless rightists.

</snark>

eosfpodcast ,
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@futurebird

Pure insanity.

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