I didn't say they were scientific papers; I said they were based on scientific assessments and data.
Is it your opinion that the sources I listed are fly-by-night orgs, who rely on non credible, untested data?
I'd have to say you don't understand ecological overshoot when you agree there is ecological overshoot but don't see the direct connection between population numbers and ecological overshoot.
You are looking at this from a human only perspective; ignoring the effects that 8+ billion ppl have on the natural world.
The number of ppl in any area has direct effects on the natural environment of that area.
Loss of habitat that other life forms rely on to survive is the main one.
Increased pollution from humans and their activities is another.
We are now experiencing the 6th mass extinction of flora and fauna on the planet.
Directly caused by humans.
I would argue that this wouldn't be happening if there weren't 8+ billion ppl sucking away all of the regenerative resources meant to support all life on the planet.
There was 2.8 billion ppl when I was born.
There were problems of loss of the natural world even back then, but they could have been managed and mitigated.
With 8+ billion ppl, that is impossible now; cities encompass 40 or more miles, even the small towns of the past have suburbs to them. All of that means more natural lands lost to the food systems to feed us and the businesses that support our lifestyles.
Watching the natural world be destroyed and disappearing in real time has been heartbreaking, knowing what the consequences will be.
Ecological overshoot is true in even poor countries and areas.
"The major threats to Ngorongoro Conservation Area relates to the increase in the resident's population alongside their livestock and the socio-cultural changes. Tourism is growing rapidly, creating intense pressure for supporting infrastructure e.g. accommodation and roads. Some of these threats to the property’s Outstanding Universal Values are partially being addressed and its overall ecological integrity is still maintained. However, the movement corridors in and out of the Crater itself are being disintegrated because of growth in human population, particularly from the Crater itself towards Serengeti, to and past Olbalbal and along the Olduvai Gorge, as well as the Ndutu to the Crater corridor via the highlands. Closer engagement with local communities in exploring alternative livelihood solutions are needed. Threats from fire, disease transmission from domestic stock and human-wildlife conflicts are under control. Spread of highly invasive alien species (IAS) remains a major threat due to its high occurrence outside the NCA boundary. High levels of awareness and readiness for rapid response are vitally important to protect the rangelands of the NCA and Serengeti against the impacts of this high impact IAS."
(When the NCA was created, land was set aside for the 10k Maasai ppl who lived there. Today there are 100k Maasai living in the same area - leading to the problems listed in the article.)
The planet evolved to support a varied and large diversity of life, all intertwined with each other to keep this planet thriving with life.
Eliminating (extinction) of any one part effects the survival of all life.
We are pushing countless species of life forms into extinction on a frighteningly regular basis now.
This wouldn't be happening if 8+ billion ppl weren't taking every resource available and leaving nothing for the rest of life on the planet to survive on.