futurebird ,
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Here is my small nervous Formica subsericea. These are black field ants, you can tell them from carpenter ants because they are shiner, only come in one size (no majors with big heads) and their thorax has a dent rather than a hump. They also move differently from carpenter ants which tend to be more deliberate and less spastic.

Today I gave them fruit flies and they have eagerly piled them up in front of the queen. Who looks like she just wants to go to sleep.

futurebird OP ,
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There is something very "look mom! look!" about the way they always put whatever food they find right in front of the queen. As you can see she is very full. And very clean. (someone is always grooming her) I need to sign these ants up for some activities. They don't have enough to do, clearly.

futurebird OP ,
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Even the queen moves quickly. They are always fighting over who gets to carry what. There is generally a small clutch of eggs in the nest and I have never seen them set it down. An ant is always proudly holding the cluster of new eggs and she won’t let her sisters help her hold it. I think they must sit it down when it’s dark and quiet in the nest— but if I’m taking photos? well we never get to see them calm first that reason! Ants notice photographers!

A short clip where the queen runs in and out of frame then two workers struggling over who will carry a silk pupa. The footage almost looks like it has been sped up. Even with her ample gaster the queen moves quickly.

alexhaist ,
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@futurebird ...these may be the skittery ants that I complain about, if they come into the house! I am fairly tolerant of house ants, but we had a crop that would just skitter spastically across you.

futurebird OP ,
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@alexhaist

They are very spastic. They are "calm" in that clip. When they really go into a full panic it's impossible to even film.

The good news is they are not as interested as some of the smaller black ants are in living in a human house. They really do live up to the name "field ants" they like to be outside, they like fresh insects and have many relations with aphids and scale insects.

They don't like carbs. Ants that infest homes tend to like carbs.

alexhaist ,
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@futurebird probably just some extra flighty carpenter ants, then. They went bonkers for spilled Gatorade.

futurebird OP ,
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@alexhaist

They could still be field ants. Are there ever any that are bigger than the rest? or are they mostly the same size?

alexhaist ,
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@futurebird they all seemed largely the same size.

futurebird OP ,
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@alexhaist

To be totally certian you need to look at this part. Camponotus (carpenter ants, many thousands of species) have a hump. Formica (field and thatching ants) have a dent.

alexhaist ,
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@futurebird next time they show up, I shall examine them closely! Thank you!

benetherington ,
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@futurebird @alexhaist Dromedary and bactrian ants.

SehrLesbisch ,
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@futurebird I love the small moment of hesitation after one ant hands another the thingy, then steps forward and is now actually closer to the queen than the one it gave the thing to

relatable tbh

jonhendry ,
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@futurebird

Do they see infrared?

futurebird OP ,
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@jonhendry

Ants have poor vision in the infrared and even in red light, but enhanced ultraviolet vision, much like bees and wasps they can see colors we can't in the ultra spectrum.

Zeugs ,
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@futurebird @jonhendry where does this make a difference is there aspects of things they notice, we can not see?

futurebird OP ,
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@Zeugs @jonhendry

It allows some desert ants to navigate by the sun... something about polarized light that helps them to find their nest on hot sand where they can't lay pheromone trails. There may be other uses... but I don't know about them.

Zeugs ,
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@futurebird @jonhendry
Havents found any ant UV photos of ants but butterflies use UV to communicate(there is a wikipedia article).
They must have some "reason" to see in that spectrum. If it's a navigation thing it would be interesting how it works.

Zeugs ,
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@futurebird @jonhendry found it. It's for discriminating the sky and everything else as I understood it. There is a photo in the article.
http://www.dictionnaire-amoureux-des-fourmis.fr/O/Orientation/Schultheiss-UV-Cata-AB2017.pdf

jonhendry ,
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@futurebird

Perhaps an IR camera would let you watch them in the dark.

uastronomer ,
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@futurebird I have a question about ant photography. Would it make sense to shoot in the dark, with a flash?

I'm thinking setting up the camera, lining up the shot, locking in focus, and then killing the lights. Once the ants calm down, set a timer to snap a flashlit shot at regular intervals so and let it run overnight. Then you can just flip through them in the morning and look for the shots where something interesting was happening.

Good idea? Bad?

futurebird OP ,
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@uastronomer This is interesting but another issue is keeping the ants (who are never still) in frame and in focus. I think this would just result in a bunch of photos of random blurry legs.

tuban_muzuru ,
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@futurebird @uastronomer

I did some ant pics for someone last year - Here's something I found useful

https://youtu.be/DERZbOlYQw0?si=AM6_E5p8p3BJL_yV

futurebird OP , (edited )
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All of their little gasters are so full. This colony is doing well. I wonder how many of them there will be by the end of the summer?

Fat little ants.

justafrog ,
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@futurebird Fat bottomed girls.

futurebird OP ,
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@justafrog

They make the under-rock world go round!

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