jerry ,
@jerry@infosec.exchange avatar

I get 1password from from work... now that I am being kicked out, I need to figure out if I want to stay with 1Password... (and pay for it) 🤔

lnxgeek ,
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@jerry I root for bitwarden@fosstodon.org

It does the job and has a solid self-hosted version.

gtz42 ,

@jerry unfortunately it turned into an electron app, what already should be a reason to avoid it.
As bitwarden also is an electron app, you’re sadly out of luck with the two main candidates.
As I only need my password manager to work in the Apple ecosystem I’m evaluating Strongbox now.
As it is compatible to KeepPass I should be able to access my vault from other OSes as well.

compuguy ,
@compuguy@infosec.exchange avatar

@jerry
I personally think it's worth paying for 1Password. Though a good alternative is Bitwarden. The downside is Bitwarden isn't as user friendly....

toadjaune ,
@toadjaune@hostux.social avatar

@jerry if you want one more data point :

I've used Bitwarden and 1Password extensively, both are great, but there are a few featureset differences that may help you decide switching or not.

  • 1Password's UX is generally more polished, which is especially handy if you have a non-tech-savvy family
  • 1Password is good at automatically detecting TOTP setup qr-codes on the page
    1/n
isotopp ,
@isotopp@chaos.social avatar

@jerry you want to pay for the bitwarden app and extensions, and run a vaultwarden instance

masek ,
@masek@infosec.exchange avatar

@jerry I recommend against 1P. Cloud only is not a valid solution for password storage. My recommendation is: Bitwarden + Vaultwarden. You can use their cloud too, but I just pay there.

gh0sti ,
@gh0sti@mastodon.social avatar

@jerry @troyhunt who’s behind haveibeenpwned is on their board and integrated his services into 1pass.

gh0sti ,
@gh0sti@mastodon.social avatar

@jerry do it. It’s worth it. I just helped my mom unlock her account which I was surprised I could do with her being in my family.

AJCxZ0 ,
@AJCxZ0@infosec.exchange avatar

@jerry I concurrently use 1Password Family, Bitwarden (free) and Proton Pass (Proton Unlimited) on multiple platforms with other users. In your situation, i.e. with secrets already in your "complimentary" 1Password Family account (which I presume you use for a "family"), I'd keep it because it's the best at everything except being fully open source.

> If you leave your business account or are removed from it, your family account will be unlinked from it, and it will enter into a complimentary trial period. You can add a payment method to start a 1Password Families subscription.
https://support.1password.com/link-family/

If you already pay for Proton, then consider switching to Proton Pass. It's not near to feature parity with 1Password, but is good, improving rapidly and you're already paying for it.

Bitwarden is very close to 1Password in features, but note that the free tier does not include TOTP or Passkeys, rendering it next to useless as a single secrets store, but excellent as a free backup for your vaults. The lowest paid tier adds them at a very reasonable cost and other tiers are priced competitively.

WowSuchCyber ,
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@jerry kicked out? That sucks man, are you alright?

jerry OP ,
@jerry@infosec.exchange avatar

@WowSuchCyber yeah, I am good. I’m going to take some time to figure out what I want to do next. Because I am not sure I want to do that again.

WowSuchCyber ,
@WowSuchCyber@toot.zof.sh avatar

@jerry good idea if you can do that. It takes a while to spin your head out of the craziness of those high stress positions. Whishing you the best! (Judging by the pics you post, it's going in a nice direction :-)

ender3 ,
@ender3@infosec.exchange avatar

@jerry I have not read your numerous responses to this.

I have investigated this myself each of the past two years, as I really don’t like some of the business decisions 1Password is making.

Bottom line: the gap may be closing, but 1Password is still the best out there.

kuoirad ,
@kuoirad@infosec.exchange avatar

@jerry When I left previous job a couple months ago, I was prepared to shell out the $72/year (1PW Families @ $60/year plus one extra user) because I think it's that good, I've been using it for years before I got previous job to adopt it, and I've got family (parents and brothers) on it so we can easily share stuff as parents get older.

j_f ,
@j_f@mastodon.social avatar

@jerry there was a time you could play once and have your data synced locally, good times..

menino_maven ,
@menino_maven@artsocial.boston avatar

@jerry I like BitWarden....

EFreethought ,
@EFreethought@universeodon.com avatar

@jerry

I put in a vote for KeePassXC

bhawthorne ,
@bhawthorne@infosec.exchange avatar

@jerry Yes, you do. I pay for the family version so my wife and kids have access to the important passwords in a shared vault in case something happens to me.

sbank ,
@sbank@hachyderm.io avatar

@jerry 1Password in conjunction with Fastmail is what did it for me.

Automatically creating dummy e-mail addresses and passwords with one click? Yes please.

ask ,
@ask@infosec.exchange avatar

@jerry set up a vaultwarden server instead. The official bitwarden apps and extensions can connect to it.

miri ,
@miri@infosec.exchange avatar

@jerry I have a family plan on 1Password to help my parents manage their passwords and have been really happy with it. It works across all my devices as well as my husband’s Android ecosystem. Definitely worth the money for me.

crdotson ,

@jerry I kept 1Password.

jerry OP ,
@jerry@infosec.exchange avatar

@crdotson did you create a new account or somehow migrate your existing one?

crdotson ,

@jerry I created a family account and then moved the personal items over to it, which was super easy (just click move), and left the corporate ones to die in the corporate vault. :). I actually did that a while back, so I just made sure that everything was in the right vault before leaving.

chiefoldmist ,
@chiefoldmist@cyberplace.social avatar

@jerry @bitwarden is good and full features for $10 per year...

quasineutral ,
@quasineutral@infosec.exchange avatar

@jerry Pass, the standard unix password manager.
Keep your gpg key on nfc/usb hardware tokens. Don't let some malware steal all your passwords when your machine gets popped.

MITREsteve ,
@MITREsteve@infosec.exchange avatar

@jerry I use BitWarden with the family plan. Makes it much easier to organize passwords among my family

waltwooton ,
@waltwooton@spartanburg.social avatar

@jerry Using LastPass, on the other hand, would provide transparency. 😳

DaveMWilburn ,
@DaveMWilburn@infosec.exchange avatar

@jerry FWIW, I've been very happy with KeePass and its variants for many years. It's fiddly, especially in terms of backups and syncing being entirely your problem, but the flip side to that is that it is largely safe from the threats of enshittification.

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