futurebird ,
@futurebird@sauropods.win avatar

I hate what debates tend to be: soundbite mines where each side runs around claiming that they got in the best "dunk" and thus won.

It reminds me of when I as a teen and the ran the dozens in the school yard. "Yo mamma so fat the lobbyists say 'save some for me!'"

Can't even agree who won the last election. How can Trump ask to participate in a system he doesn't even recognize as legitimate?

Why debate Biden? You don't think he's president, right?

norgralin ,
@norgralin@hachyderm.io avatar

@futurebird we’d all be better off of they were sent to individual rooms to write their answers. But it’s really just pageantry for future “internet owns”. So that’s what we’re getting.

futurebird OP ,
@futurebird@sauropods.win avatar

@norgralin

The more I think about it I think I'd enjoy it more if we forgot the "civil" debate and they just played dozens.

At least that'd be funny.

futurebird OP ,
@futurebird@sauropods.win avatar

I might have said a debate like this was a mistake, but this time I think it doesn't matter. Media want it to matter. But I don't think it will.

There is a slim chance that Biden can be heard by people who have been insulated from him by right wing media and that might be a good thing.

Trump will say a lot of bold anti-war soundbites. Things he has no intention of doing and doesn't even believe. He will pretend to anti-interventionism.

This will distress moderates but change nothing.

lienrag ,

@futurebird

He actually was less interventionist during his mandate I believe ?
(while being callously brutal where he intervened, though)

futurebird OP ,
@futurebird@sauropods.win avatar

@lienrag

Why do you think he was less interventionist? (sincere question, I've heard people say this and want to understand why)

tob ,
@tob@hachyderm.io avatar

@futurebird @lienrag less than what? Trump's record in office hardly looks non-interventionist. (He perpetuated the ear on Afghanistan, directly bombed Iran, and increased drone killings while shrouding that program in secrecy)

At best, you might argue that Trump's foreign policy was "helter skelter," but underlying that chaos was a real intention to use the power of the presidency to enrich himself.

Rank corruption != non-interventionism

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