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Today's threads (a thread)

Inside: AI "art" and uncanniness; and more!

Archived at: https://pluralistic.net/2024/05/13/spooky-action-at-a-close-up/

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j_feral ,
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@pluralistic As a digital archivist who has managed a web archiving program, I 100% agree with your take on scraping, and THANK YOU for writing this. Is there any meaningful difference between the fair use you're talking about and what happened with Anna's Archive scraping OCLC metadata records? https://torrentfreak.com/lawsuit-accuses-annas-archive-of-hacking-worldcat-stealing-2-2-tb-data-240207/ It's fair use, right?? (I know you're not a copyright lawyer but interested if you have an opinion!)

brilokuloj ,
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@pluralistic really excellently written and nuanced, sent this one to my debate friends.

pluralistic OP ,
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Tomorrow (May 14), I'm on a livecast about AI and enshittification with @timoreilly:

https://www.oreilly.com/live-events/tim-oreilly-and-cory-doctorow-on-enshittification-and-the-future-of-ai/0642572001651/

Wednesday (May 15), I'm in North Hollywood for a screening of Stephanie Kelton's Finding the Money:

https://www.laemmle.com/film/finding-money?date=2024-05-15

Friday (May 17), I'm in San Francisco at the @internetarchive to keynote the tenth anniversary of the @AuthorsAlliance:

https://www.authorsalliance.org/2024/03/15/authors-alliance-10th-anniversary-event-authorship-in-an-age-of-monopoly-and-moral-panics/

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18+ pluralistic OP , (edited )
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AI "art" and uncanniness: "A meaning that does not stem from organizing intention."

https://mamot.fr/@pluralistic/112435369749859354

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    Hey look at this

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    Sofa of mousepads https://web.archive.org/web/20040531234157/http://www.engadget.com/entry/4721738962773695/

    Open source games from 1978 https://www.atariarchives.org/basicgames/

    Why RIAA lawsuits matter to the Free Software Foundation https://torrentfreak.com/the-war-on-sharing-why-the-fsf-cares-about-riaa-lawsuits-090513/

    Jesse Ventura: I could make Chickenhawk Cheney confess to the Sharon Tate murders with a waterboard https://crooksandliars.com/heather/jesse-ventura-you-give-me-water-board-dick

    French “three-strikes” copyright law passes — but may be dead anyway https://www.laquadrature.net/en/2009/05/13/solemn-burial-for-hadopi-in-french-national-assembly/

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    McDonald’s Hot Coffee lawsuit: deliberate, corporatist urban legend https://priceonomics.com/how-a-lawsuit-over-hot-coffee-helped-erode-the-7th/

    Spurious correlations: an engine for head-scratching coincidences http://www.tylervigen.com

    NSA sabotaged exported US-made routers with backdoors https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/may/12/glenn-greenwald-nsa-tampers-us-internet-routers-snowden

    Podcast: Why it is not possible to regulate robots https://ia600209.us.archive.org/28/items/Cory_Doctorow_Podcast_272/Cory_Doctorow_Podcast_272_Why_it_is_not_possible_to_regulate_robots.mp3

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    Clapper’s ban on talking about leaks makes life difficult for crypto profs with cleared students https://twitter.com/mattblaze/status/464841668391624705

    Ukip councillor sends cops to activist’s house, ask him to delete critical tweet https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/may/12/police-ask-blogger-remove-legitimate-tweet-ukip

    Bletchley Park Trust erects “Berlin Wall” to cut off on-site computer history museum https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/may/12/bletchley-park-national-museum-computing-berlin-wall-restored-colossus-codebreaking

    Vancouver’s housing bubble was driven by billions in laundered criminal proceeds https://www.seattletimes.com/business/billions-in-dirty-cash-helped-fuel-vancouver-b-c-s-housing-boom/

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    18+ pluralistic OP ,
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    Supreme Court greenlights Apple customers’ lawsuit over App Store price-fixing https://www.wired.com/story/supreme-court-apple-decision-antitrust/

    Amazon’s monopsony power: the other antitrust white meat https://www.promarket.org/2019/02/15/is-amazon-violating-the-sherman-act/

    Trump supporters astonished to learn that the man they gave $20m to “build the wall” has nothing to show for it https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/05/11/group-raised-more-than-million-build-wall-now-some-supporters-want-answers/

    Revenge of the Linkdumps https://pluralistic.net/2023/05/13/four-bar-linkage/#linkspittle

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    18+ pluralistic OP ,
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    Saturday's threads: Algorithmic feeds are a twiddler's playground; and more!

    https://mamot.fr/@pluralistic/112422007037388908

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    18+ pluralistic OP ,
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    Tomorrow (May 14), I'm on a livecast about AI and enshittification with @timoreilly:

    https://www.oreilly.com/live-events/tim-oreilly-and-cory-doctorow-on-enshittification-and-the-future-of-ai/0642572001651/

    Wednesday (May 15), I'm in North Hollywood for a screening of Stephanie Kelton's Finding the Money:

    https://www.laemmle.com/film/finding-money?date=2024-05-15

    Friday (May 17), I'm in San Francisco at the @internetarchive to keynote the tenth anniversary of the @AuthorsAlliance:

    https://www.authorsalliance.org/2024/03/15/authors-alliance-10th-anniversary-event-authorship-in-an-age-of-monopoly-and-moral-panics/

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    18+ RileyNorman ,
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    @pluralistic @timoreilly @internetarchive @AuthorsAlliance

    I don't like that I can identify the legal maximum and then create a machine to use just a shave under that amount but from everyone, to create the exact effect the law was designed to prevent, art having no lasting value.

    For instance, dump my original artwork into an AI and you can create thousands of conceptual duplicates minutes after my publication. What chance does my piece have in such a market?

    18+ Catawu ,
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    @pluralistic The cup was too thin, the lid didn’t fit, and she was scalded terribly and it took more than 3 surgeries to repair the resulting wounds. McD’s had cups so thin that when they handed them to you, they pinched and their lids fell off. I remember those.

    18+ rupert ,
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    @Catawu @pluralistic A cap on damages seems reasonable to people who are unaware that there's no cap on medical expenses.

    allo ,
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    @pluralistic There is one option that would be really useful: Force fair access to models. This may even mean that every model should be open source. AI models are a great thing, as long as you control them yourself. Companies gating models behind APIs, charging a large amount of money for something they made from free data, and restricting what users are allowed to do, are not. As of now it looks like models are also not copyrighed, but that does not help as long as companies keep them private.

    pyperkub ,
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    @pluralistic Reading the click through - how does the AI-work in public domain apply to code? @design_law might be interested in this discussion as well - click through link: https://pluralistic.net/2023/08/20/everything-made-by-an-ai-is-in-the-public-domain/

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