benroyce ,
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I need the help of .

Why the f*** would try to coopt the legacy of Immanuel ?

It's probably not a serious question. Maybe it's just a silly immature dunk on / pride. Or maybe there's something darker in Kant's writings that thinks supports recent behavior (I have no reason to believe there is, I'm just openly musing).

Either way it's certainly a bizarre new front in the conflict: war.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/europe/german-chancellor-accuses-putin-of-misusing-philosopher-immanuel-kants-teachings/articleshow/109561696.cms

riley ,
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@benroyce Most likely because Kant used to live in Königsberg, which has now become Russia's beachhead at the Baltic Sea.

benroyce OP ,
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@riley

yes!

Mr. Mastodon himself, Eugen, is in this thread with this same observation

it's such a stupid premise though. putin is a silly silly man

riley ,
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@benroyce It probably makes sense, somehow, in the head of a neo-Stalinist thinker who feels like an ethnicity is an important essential aspect of a human.

benroyce OP ,
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@riley

ethnofascism

so many decades after wwii. and here we are fighting it, literally, militarily, again today 😩

riley ,
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@benroyce I may have ranted a couple of times about how American adoption of birth certificates was originally motivated by trying to enforce heritage and immutability of "race" on people.

Bolsheviks did the same with "ethnicity". In late thirties, at about the same time the high-ranking politicians were being Purged, the Little Peoples' "internal passport" system was amended to record everybody's ethnicity, which would be immutable, and in the later years get sort-of-inherited (although in practice, in some places, people were able to self-identity their immutable ethnicity when they got their first passport at 16).

I don't know enough about Bolshevik history to tell if this is a strong causal link, but Stalin's experience as being tin charge of the "Ethnicities Desk" in Lenin's early cabinet makes me at least wonder. Then again, using ethnic labels for people serving in the royal court goes back centuries even in the pre-revolutionary Russian Empire.

benroyce OP ,
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@riley unfortunately it works

who is dying for russian ethnofascism in ukraine?

buryats. dagestanis. chechens. bashkirs. tatars. ossetians. etc

while the st. petersburg and moscow rich russians will never fight in ukraine

it's doubly insidious because you would expect the death toll to produce discontent in russia. but there will be no effective discontent, because you've killed all the youth of the ethnic minorities in your stupid war. and russian elites don't care

riley ,
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@benroyce Except if they get caught protesting. Then, they can get drafted and sent to the war.

Speaking of discontent, a relatively influential movement in Russia's last few decades used to be the associations of mothers of soldiers. They used to play a significant rôle in ending Russia's entanglement with Afghanistan, and, for obvious reasons, were becoming a point of discontent wrt the war against Ukraine. Guess what happened to them last year?

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/07/28/russian-soldiers-mothers-group-announces-closure-after-foreign-agent-designation-a81989

riley ,
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@benroyce If you wrote in a dystopian YA book that an association of mothers of fallen soldiers was declared a foreign agent, literary critics would complain about it being an implausible plot device. But the real world dystopias are not constrained by plausibility.

benroyce OP ,
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@riley it's fascism

every german knows the story of sophie scholl and the white rose movement. guillotined for distributing anti-war leaflets in nazi germany

that's what is happening in russia:

the artist alexandra skochilenko got seven years in russia for replacing price stickers with anti-war stickers

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/17/russian-artist-jailed-for-seven-years-over-anti-war-price-tag-protest

of course this isn't execution. but if domestic discontent in russia gets worse, death sentences are coming

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