I'm not sure I would go back even if they are unionized. It's shitty coffee made by a chain that is very eager to ignore labor laws that are inconvenient. I'll stick with my local coffee shops that actually give a shit
Nobody said other positions SHOULDN'T be, just that EVERY hourly position SHOULD be. And I agree. Salaries positions should also be, but hourly employees are usually on the lowest rungs of the ladder.
But management and c-suites don't need unions. They already have the power hourly just doesn't have.
Good job with the solidarity there, bud. The best way to rouse support is to be confrontational toward anyone who is trying to join in, lmao. Why should this guy care about your movement if you don't care about his?
I don't care what the second part of your message says, because I don't care to read past the dumb capital words you put in for drama.
Edit: I'm just the messenger, lmao! You guys are neutering your own social movement with your lame attitudes. I'm just telling you about it.
Yeah, because someone addiing emphasis to their comment is the person whonis driving people away and not the person being a child about how someone speaks.
Because I'm already on your side, and you're still annoying. Good luck convincing anyone who actually disagrees with you, which is the only thing that matters.
This happens every time I throw out an opinion that's even slightly controversial on Lemmy. Eventually, people realize they're wrong and they can't give me an actual counter point. So they resort to basically what's happening now, which is derailing the conversation by refusing to elaborate when I ask in good faith what they mean. This time, it's some apparent irony that they won't explain, probably because it doesn't even exist. Maybe the person doesn't respond because they are afraid I'll just dismantle their point again.
I mean, I can go back and reread all of messages from the mass of dissenters and try to to rationalize whatever "irony" it is they're talking about, but irony is subjective. And now were left with this permanent internet monument where nobody was able to actually throw out any counter arguments with real substance to them. So I guess I win?
You can't seriously be this stupid, but maybe you are so I'll throw you a bone.
You're "arguing" that someone's writing is coming across poorly to the audience and hurting their point. In a thread where the voting record clearly indicates that your writing is coming off poorly to the audience.
Didn't think that needed such a blatant explanation, but here we are.
Truth isn't determined by popular vote. Just because nobody likes it, doesn't mean it isn't true or that it isn't valid. They may also be downvoting because they don't like my tone, and not because I'm wrong. Besides, this is all just stupid infighting--OP's tonedeafness is shared by a broad group of left-leaning people and is splayed across the news media.
When it comes to convincing right-leaning people, their sentiment is doing legitimate harm to our movement. And at the end of the day, if people refuse to acknowledge my message because of my tone, they're the ones suffering. Conservatives really experience no downside by ignoring us, because they are happy to be classless, bigoted fools. So basically: suck it up and accept it, or continue to be ignored. Whatever.
Lmao. So, you're saying that conservatives are onboard with the whole BLM/minority rights thing, and that people are getting their message across no biggie? Grow up.
Do you want a peer reviewed paper proving that conservatives don't agree with non-conservatives? Hilarious.
You're so worried about how people are talking and not what they are saying.
Do you really think right wingers really care about the politcs of respectability? They use manners as a cudgel, as you are. Seriously, you're playing their game and creating division by saying that using the so called improper emphasis is some how bad.
You know you've won a discussion when the other person has resorted to calling you stupid, because they can't think of anything worhwhile to say. That's the best indicator that you've lost.
You're overlooking the hundreds of thousands of everyday salaried workers being laid off in the last couple years by drawing a line that doesn't exist between them and vague "hourly" workers you describe here - I have a good friend in an hourly position that makes $60/ hr with good benefits, and one that makes around $40/hr with crap benefits from his salaried position, both were laid off for no reason last year in one of these rounds of indiscriminate, unjustified firings solely to juice stock dividends.
No reason to not full court press on this issue FROM ALL WORKERS- labor needs to be unionized, PERIOD - McDonalds or Microsoft, all of it. Nobody is even talking about the relatively non-existent number of people in the c suite here? HUGE ocean between them and the salaried workers at their companies.
Does anyone know if there's a way to identify nearby unionized stores? I'd like to only go to my unionized Starbucks or unionized Trader Joe's, if there's any of those close to me.
Jesus christ, first time visiting that horrible site I’m greeted with a purple, full page, text box to submit my email address to “never miss a new video”.. what the fuck? Who in their right mind sits down and says “yes, this is just what we need”
Agreed. But it's likely because Howard Shultz finally handed over the reins. He is such an anti-union ideologue that he was willing to risk the health of his own company rather than make a deal
