RunningInRVA ,

And you wonder why people are taking shots at him now. The system has failed us.

quicklime ,

Why is it even OK for any case involving a former president to be tried before any judge that he appointed?

madeinthebackseat ,

Because fascism.

Chocrates ,

We never new we needed this law until we did.

mkhopper ,
@mkhopper@lemmy.world avatar

And he slides out of another one....
Fucker is so slippery that even bullets don't stick.

MeThisGuy ,

teflon smuck

Fades ,

This gave Jack Smith the ability to take this and appeal it, which he previously could not do because she refused to publish actual orders ever since Smith appealed a previous bad decision by her and won.

There is simply no way Smith loses this appeal, it will end up in the Supreme Court and that is where the final nail will fall for this case.

Furthermore, she had a FUCK TON of things to make a decision on that were key to the case, thus when she is removed those decisions can still be made instead of the next judge inheriting her bullshit. There is still hope, which is pathetic that we need any but it is what it is.

GreyEyedGhost ,

And the odds of any of that happening is vanishingly small if Trump wins. Even if he doesn't, I think he won't see any serious consequences from this. In court, anyway.

HawlSera ,

And the whole deification of the assassination attempt survivor begins....

Nightwingdragon ,

I hate to say it, and I know it's going to sound fatalistic, but her decision is very likely going to stand.

Clarence Thomas literally handed her this argument on a silver platter. And say what you will about him, the legal system still considers him one of nine justices of the highest court in the land, and his words still carry that legal weight.

If Jack Smith appeals, there's (IMO), a 50/50 chance he wins on appeal. I could see the appeals court using things like logic and rational thought, kicking Cannon off the case and reinstating the charges against Trump (Or however that would work in the legal sense). But I could also see them saying that since she was merely following what Clarence Thomas told her to do, her decision is on sound legal footing, would most likely survive Supreme Court scrutiny, her decision was proper based on the SC ruling, and the decision stands. And from a strictly legal standpoint, they'd be right in doing so.

And if this case were to make it all the way up to the SC......since Cannon was literally following their blueprint, there's 0% chance that they'll suddenly rule against her. Nothing good can come out of appealing to the Supreme Court, and in fact it may be exactly what this supreme court wants and why Clarence Thomas added that little tidbit into the decision, so the SC can rule that all special counsels are illegal and the entire J6 investigation was unconstitutional as a result.

(Of course, Hunter Biden's conviction will still stand, because reasons.....)

This case is dead. The other three are on life support, and the doctor has already called for the chaplain to deliver last rites.

Norgoroth ,
@Norgoroth@lemmy.world avatar

It's even worse than that, it had nothing to do with Thomas or SC. She claims the AG has no constitutional authority to appoint a special counsel.

Nightwingdragon ,

Because Thomas literally gave her that argument to make in the immunity ruling. She literally cited his comments and basically copied his ruling like a high school kid copying off the "smart" kid in the class.

He basically told her "Hey, throw the case out. We've got your back."

cheese_greater ,

Except nobody signed on to his concurrence. He was acting alone in his "analysis"

queermunist ,
@queermunist@lemmy.ml avatar

That's the Thomas two-step. He uses these concurrences to issue marching orders to the judges below him, so that it can be challenged up to the Supreme Court and then his concurrence becomes precedent.

Nastybutler ,

Thomas is not the supreme court. And he's starting to alienate himself from even the other conservative justices. He's on an island and I doubt the others would follow his lead if this reaches SCOTUS on appeal.

queermunist ,
@queermunist@lemmy.ml avatar

They'll rule it's Constitutional to hunt Democrats for their pelts and you'll still be pretending the Court is legitimate. 🙄

blazera ,
@blazera@lemmy.world avatar

This is a complete denial of the authority of both the executive and legislative branches. It was a congressional law passed that created the department of justice and explicitly gave the attorney general the authority to prosecute for any crimes the United States has a stake in.

Marleyinoc ,

That was so Republicans could go after Democrats. It's totally different now that Daddy Trump is being held accountable for his crimes.

Etterra ,

So nice of his loyal toadie to let him off the hook like that.

DaddleDew ,

We really live in the worst timeline.

I'm sure that in all the other parallel universes where Trump exists, he's a used car salesman.

suction ,

He kinda is in this universe...

WhatYouNeed ,

An ex-used car salesman. He's doing 5-15 in Rikers protective custody for raping a minor.

resin85 ,

WSJ this morning. The last bit is a stunning self own after Cannon flushed the last remaining parts of the justice system down the toilet today.

"Leaders on both sides need to stop describing the stakes of the election in apocalyptic terms. Democracy won't end if one or the other candidate is elected. Fascism is not aborning if Mr. Trump wins, unless you have little faith in American institutions."

ashok36 ,

People are picking sides. If you believe trump will win, and you're a coward, and you know that he will go on a reign of terror after inauguration then it makes sense to get in line as soon as possible. Last in line are first against the wall after all. And there will be people against the wall. Mark my words.

Pelosi, Obama, Biden and his family, shumer, aoc, and Cohen will be arrested for treason within weeks and executed. I know it sounds crazy but... ::gestures vaguely at everything::

Telorand ,

Doesn't even need a reason. He just has to "gesture vaguely," to borrow your turn of phrase, at Official Acts™. He's already got a hitlist, so he just needs the levers of power to cross off names with impunity.

Wes4Humanity ,

The only one on your list that I would take up arms to defend is AOC. And she's been pushing it lately.

ashok36 ,

The Democrat party has had an influx of never Trump centrists and even milquetoast conservatives. The dems will be moving right ward to accommodate those new pick ups until the Maga crowd fizzles out and conservatives go back to the GOP.

Or we have a complete realignment and the parties flip. It's happened before.

Marleyinoc ,

Well, we have a lot less faith today thanks to Eileen Cannon and the majority of the rigged SCOTUS.

postmateDumbass ,

Considering how much Team Trump has dismantled already, it is very rational to think these thoughts.

N0body ,

She really dismissed it over the appointment of a special prosecutor? Completely insane, but the fake Supreme Court will probably rubber stamp it. America is so fucked.

cheese_greater ,

Its all good, now they can have her removed from the case

Telorand ,

This. Jack Smith hasn't been able to nail her on any of her antics thus far, as they've been plausibly deniable, but her specious reasoning for the dismissal is a prime target for reversal by the 11th Circuit. She's so bad at her job, she can't even stall properly.

If Smith doesn't go to the 11th Circuit, then he was a terrible choice to begin with, and he was never going to win anything.

quicklime ,

The question now might be whether he appeals to the 11th Circuit Court or straight to the Supreme Court. I fear either way may be too slow to get anywhere before November.

Telorand ,

I doubt this will run its course before November, but if it can be a drain on his sanity and coffers, I'd say it's still in the public interest to keep it going. As someone who listens to Knowledge Fight often, this kind of stuff gets under their skin and derails their ability to be effective at messaging.

Ultimately, it's in the public interest to keep going, if only because it's still a crime that deserves to be tried on the real possibility that he loses in November.

quicklime ,

Agreed. It's all very disgusting but no reason for despair, just continued fight.

quicklime ,

True, but it will all take so long that the case still won't get anywhere before the election. In a way this might even have been the judge's ultimate delay tactic, capping off the slow-walk that she already perpetrated.

cheese_greater ,

It'll put more pressure on Trump's system so I can't complain. Its obv bullshit but it gets the rubes' hopes up so it all balances out. I don't buy his assassination attempt has changed anything

InternetUser2012 ,

It changes nothing, it's even worse it was a republican that did it.

Fades ,

and she doesn't get to rule on a lot of the key decisions she had been dragging her feet on, so when she is replaced that judge will not have to inherit her bullshit decisions on important aspects of the case.

Squorlple ,
@Squorlple@lemmy.world avatar

Wow, is there anything this guy can’t dodge?

nondescripthandle ,

Hopefully he can't dodge two attemps. Attempts to be held resposible of course. No other meaning.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

If it's attempts be be held responsible for something, that's gotta be in the hundreds by now.

Imgonnatrythis ,

Slippery greasy fuck. It would be pretty easy for me to believe that God sent him here as the most blatantly obvious punishment to mankind he could come up with.
Like if God came out of the sky smacking his head and saying, "you dumb mother fuckers, why are you still denying my existence? Do you think this useless blob has risen to these ranks and can avoid all logical consequences of gross negligence and evildoing on his own accord? Beelzebub himself had it harder than this guy and was 500x more clever!"
I'd have to look at him and say, yeah man, you've got a good point going there. Sorry about that, could you maybe stop it now though?

Sterile_Technique ,
@Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world avatar

Well, if the legal justice system won't do it's job, maybe a vig- ...oh wait...

Kyrgizion ,

Does it count as violence if I hope (and only that) that "someone" "takes care" of her? Obviously rule of law means nothing to these people so it's just tit for tat.

whotookkarl ,
@whotookkarl@lemmy.world avatar

The Roberts court is a joke and obviously delaying any rulings they can until after the election to protect the wealthy and powerful from the law everyone else is restricted under. Cannon just takes the stupidity one step further.

All hail the oligarchs /s

jordanlund Mod ,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Court is on recess until October at this point, and even when they're back in session, the Court holds off on announcing rulings until June, that's standard practice.

whotookkarl ,
@whotookkarl@lemmy.world avatar

Sounds good let's shut down and recess all industries until October not just justice.

rustydrd ,
@rustydrd@sh.itjust.works avatar

I don't want to say I'm surprised by this, but JFC...

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