FrowingFostek ,

Too soon, the reductionist take isn't going to be funny if trump gets to do a fascism.

LopensLeftArm ,
@LopensLeftArm@sh.itjust.works avatar

That's the reason this guy is here, he's either a Russian or a right winger posing as a concerned progressive trying to bleed away support for Biden. He's a blatantly obvious bad faith actor, just check his post history.

return2ozma OP ,
@return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar

This same "they're Russian!" or "it's a Republican!" line has been used since the 2016 election on me on Reddit. Nothing new and I roll my eyes every time. You're not allowed to criticize a Republican-lite Dem without being accused of being Russian. I'm actually a leftist gay man in the Los Angeles area but ok...

LopensLeftArm ,
@LopensLeftArm@sh.itjust.works avatar

I don't know if you're a Russian or a Republican, but you're definitely actively pushing for a Trump win, and you're definitely a liar.

return2ozma OP ,
@return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar

The hilarious thing is I'm actually telling the truth. I don't know why some people can't comprehend that somebody is critical of do nothing politicians.

LopensLeftArm ,
@LopensLeftArm@sh.itjust.works avatar

Sounds like something a liar would say.

return2ozma OP ,
@return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar

Go check my post history on Reddit before I came to Lemmy...

https://www.reddit.com/u/return2ozma

LopensLeftArm ,
@LopensLeftArm@sh.itjust.works avatar

So you've been a Russian/Republican plant since before coming to Lemmy, so fucking what?

return2ozma OP ,
@return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar

You can either continue being delusional or find out why Biden's polling numbers have slipped to record lows. And then canvas, call, volunteer to help the Biden campaign.

LopensLeftArm ,
@LopensLeftArm@sh.itjust.works avatar

I'm not interested in advice from a Trump shill, thanks.

return2ozma OP ,
@return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar

Here, you can work for the Biden campaign. If the selection is so detrimental then you must do everything possible to get Biden reelected.

https://joebiden.com/work-with-us/

I looked everywhere for a volunteer page but they only want donations and official workers.

LopensLeftArm ,
@LopensLeftArm@sh.itjust.works avatar

I'm not interested in advice from a Trump shill, thanks.

return2ozma OP ,
@return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar

Blue MAGA gonna Blue MAGA. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

LopensLeftArm ,
@LopensLeftArm@sh.itjust.works avatar

Go shill for fascism somewhere else troll

Nero ,

2mil karma

Holy shit, have you done anything in the last decade besides post on reddit?

return2ozma OP ,
@return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar

It was easy for me to reach the frontpage when I was on there before leaving for Lemmy. I left in protest about the API crap.

lgstarn ,

If you are living in California (DOUBT), then you have room to be an idiot with your vote since it's not going to go R unless the world is ending anyway. But if you are a Angeleno (DOUBT - what's your favorite donut shop??) then keep your nonsense contained within that state for the rest of us please and thank you.

return2ozma OP ,
@return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar

Born and raised in California. I'm in Long Beach and donut shop is Simone's. Next question?

lgstarn ,

Simone's is good enough for me that I'll just ask you to keep your counterproductive-to-reality narrative to California. Long Beach is a long, long way from the rest of the country. If you manage to convince 10 or 100 people in California to have a protest vote it will probably be fine, but if we end up with Trump because you convinced even one person in a purple state to stay home, I will come to Simone's and bitch you out endlessly.

return2ozma OP ,
@return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar

Don't blame the voters blame the candidate for not building enough trust with the voters.

RedditWanderer ,

People keep making these memes and telling people not to vote like there isn't a fucking maniac with a much worse plan for the U.S than anything Biden could ever do.

We should keep voting-in democrats and force them to present younger candidates. Letting Trump win is definitely not going to get you what you want, and the democrats aren't "learning" anything when you don't vote.

People need to protest after electing these idiots. There has to be a name for how tame America is at protesting things like healthcare and corruption, while instead fighting each other of BLM and other acronyms.

return2ozma OP ,
@return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar

I've been adding to this meme since the 3rd mugshot. It's still humorous in a dystopian way.

Altofaltception ,

democrats aren't "learning" anything when you don't vote.

The Democrats will learn that people will vote them in regardless of whether they run a wet sock of a candidate or a true progressive because the alternative is worse.

TheGrandNagus ,

Nah. If they don't vote, Democrats will think "oh, that demographic doesn't vote. They can be ignored, like the youth" and would drift further right in order to attract votes from people who actually vote.

bdonvr ,

Yeah, voting en masse for the shit they put up every four years is definitely gonna "force them to present younger candidates."

Nah I think making them realize they'll never win unless they ACTUALLY move left is probably more effective a strategy

RedditWanderer ,

So their too dumb to inact good policies and you think you'll "make them realize". Ypi won't have a democracy left. You force them by protesting while in office, not by whining from your keyboard.

bdonvr ,

You call this democracy?

Icalasari ,

Big issue is that right now, if the GoP wins, they are going to do everything in their power to make any election always go their way

Really the proper solution is guillotines, but that's a bit hard in this day and age, leaving, "Democrats until the GoP is no longer a fascist dictatorial danger" as the only realistic solution

Which the Dems know and is why they won't move left - Because they KNOW that, for now, the option is "A beating or getting your limbs gnawed off by a rat"

return2ozma OP ,
@return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar

The Vote Blue No Matter Who crowd was very vocal about "Just get Biden elected and then we'll help push him Left". Then we got Biden into the White House and the pushing him Left went silent.

superduperenigma ,

And the MAGA crowd is very vocal about "just get Trump into the white house, by election or by force, and then we'll help him replace democracy with a fascist dictatorship." Then they got Trump into the White House and once his term ended they attempted a fucking coup to prevent the peaceful transition of power.

But hey, I guess that's preferable to a boring, run of the mill president who isn't quite as left as I'd prefer???

return2ozma OP ,
@return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar

Better get off Lemmy then and start canvassing and calling people threatening them to vote for Biden or else.

mozz Admin ,
mozz avatar

Earlier in this thread you defended yourself by saying you were "actually telling the truth."

This person isn't "threatening" anything. They are simply stating the reality, the truth.

betterdeadthanreddit ,

Reality is a threat to some.

snek ,
@snek@lemmy.world avatar

run of the mill president

not as quite left as I'd prefer

https://i.imgflip.com/8enb08.jpg

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

Can you explain to me what Blue MAGA is?

return2ozma OP ,
@return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar

Blue MAGA suggests that certain political sects on the left can be just as blindly faithful to their political leaders as some people on the right.

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

Why is it called Blue MAGA?

Who called it that?

return2ozma OP ,
@return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar
SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

So you can’t explain to me what it is, you need to get someone else to.

return2ozma OP ,
@return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar

I told you what it is already. The Dem party loyalists that bend over backwards and think any critique of the Dems is wrong.

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

But you didn’t answer my questions.

I find people who can’t explain concepts on their own and just link other people’s words have no understanding of the subject or they’re just wasting people’s time with no interior have a good faith discussion.

return2ozma OP ,
@return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar

Meh, believe what you want. I believe I've already explained it multiple times. Not sure what else you want.

federatingIsTooHard ,
@federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world avatar

no one is saying don't vote

Clent ,

That is the point of these. There is a high chance these posters are foreign propaganda.

It's interesting how there is no philosophical difference between certain foreign nations and the American right. They are both threatened by American democracy.

snek ,
@snek@lemmy.world avatar

Ah yes god forbid people want to say "my vote is worth something, you can't use it for genocide".

snek ,
@snek@lemmy.world avatar

Ah yes, the time when Americans lose any pressure or influence they may have on the actions of their president... because "Trump is badder".

What a low bar.

Dieinahole ,

Whoa whoa whoa whoa

I though we were all voting for Taylor Swift this time?

paddirn ,

3 out of 5 of these elections had Donald Trump as the opposing candidate, there was no other candidate worth voting for given the stakes at play, that’s just a consequence of how our system has been structured. I’d love to vote 3rd party (and have in the past), but if it helps throw the presidency to the opposition, then that doesn’t really help anything.

If you really want to get 3rd party candidates in, start at the local level and build them from the ground up.

MrVilliam ,

And vote in every election! Your apathy is their goal. They don't outnumber us, so they want people to be too disenchanted, overwhelmed, confused, and scared to try to vote against them in high enough numbers. Shitty memes like this one help that cause. Without labels, progressive policies typically get 60-80% support in polls.

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

I just want to know why the fuck 3rd party candidates are never at the major public debates. Everyone who is going to be on the ballot should get some time to speak on a big national stage like that.

return2ozma OP ,
@return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar

The elites don't want you knowing there's more than 2 parties to vote for.

Witchfire ,
@Witchfire@lemmy.world avatar

The only way to make 3rd party a realistic option is if we switch to a different voting style than FPTP

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