PhlubbaDubba ,

March Madness is more comparable to condorcet only you're not voting every possible matchup

Clinicallydepressedpoochie ,
Blackmist ,

We couldn't have it in the UK either. Too expensive. We needed bulletproof vests and incubators.

Too complicated as well. In a country that had the football pools. I still don't understand the football pools. I mean, look at this shit.

https://feddit.uk/pictrs/image/1bf400af-8812-4b2a-9022-e608e83ee19c.webp

My nan played that. I'm pretty sure she could understand Greens 1 > Lib Dems 2 > Labour 3

Linkerbaan ,
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Liberals will never understand that the establishment including Democrats will ban anything using any outrageous excuse as soon as their power monopoly becomes endangered.

son_named_bort ,

How is ranked choice voting like a March Madness bracket? I thought ranked choice voting was where you rank candidates based on preference. A bracket is basically a series of binomial choices and would be closer to the system we have now.

yetiftw ,

level of complexity

gibmiser ,

So, is the solution to rebrand ranked choice to bracket voting? Make politics "fun"?

Not really serious, probably end with another meme president

Fedizen ,

its questioning the presumption of people who play far more complex games being unable to understand voting

niktemadur ,

Ranked choice voting negatively impacts only those who benefit from the narrative that people are stupid, to be force-fed their policies and their infotainment.

danc4498 ,

Has ranked choice voting been implemented elsewhere and been shown to increase the quality of candidates?

PugJesus OP ,
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Ranked-choice voting has been implemented elsewhere. It reduces the incidence of 'strategic voting', where voters see that their preferred candidate is non-viable, and so vote for a candidate that they dislike (but less than the other leading candidate).

The point isn't 'quality of candidates', which is highly subjective, but to more accurately reflect the will of the voters.

Prunebutt ,

I'd argue that you don't really need empirical data for that, since game theory already proves that's the case.

rambling_lunatic ,

Ireland :)

ta_leadran_orm ,

As an Irish person, we have ranked choice single transferrable voting, one big benefit I see is that people can vote for less popular candidates that they closely align with without throwing away their vote, since when the candidate is eliminated your vote is transferred to your next choice.

One other thing that I thinks is very important is proportional representation, which means that for a given constituency, instead of a single candidate being chosen multiple are, for example is my constituency we have 5 Teach Dáile (members of our Dáil/parliament)
This means that less popular candidates will have a real chance of getting a seat.
It also means that more of the population is represented, for example in my constituency each candidate would get on average about 15%+ of the vote, meaning that 75%+ of the voting population are represented, unlike the 40% or so that a two party system usually has

And it's not confusing, we're thought how it works in school and voting is the easy part, counting us more tricky, but is understandable when properly explained

danc4498 ,

Omg, good point about proportions representation! I live in Tennessee where democrats have 1 out of 9 house seats. That’s 11% represention for democrats and 89% for republicans. And that isn’t counting the 2 republican senators.

According to Pew research, republicans make up 48% of TN and democrats are 36% (15% no lean). But the 48% has drawn the lines so they get 89% of the representation.

It is infuriating!

Somebody else mentioned Ireland too, maybe that should be the model.

glimse ,

What lol

PugJesus OP ,
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Pictured is a popular bracket amongst American sports fans, where they fill out predictions for winning teams, each time the matchup winnowing down the remaining teams by removing the loser.

This isn't really much different than ranked-choice voting, except that 'preference' rather than 'prediction' is used.

Despite this, some people insist that ranked choice voting couldn't work in the US because it's 'too complex' for American voters, many of whom yearly do this similar and much more expansive process for the sheer fun of it.

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