some_guy ,

Not that this will be mentioned in any of the media they consume. They'll be lied to and they'll believe it because they don't fact-check their "leaders."

nycki ,

Its not that they think they'll be affected. Its that they believe the market is "fair", and therefore rich people must have "earned it", and taxes are an unfair punishment.

Of course the reality is that the market is only ever fair when it approaches equilibrium, which is typically achieved through taxes...

andrewth09 ,

"Of course I don't, thanks to YOUR policies"

EleventhHour ,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

These people would rather die than have what’s good for them. I really wish we could just let them die and then move on with what’s good for the rest of us.

I don’t care if they admit they’re wrong. As long as they go away forever. I would literally pay it to see that.

III ,

These heroes protecting the billionaires. If we don't help the billionaires horde all of the money, who will?

Spacehooks ,

We have taught kids to kill dragons not reduce thier taxes.

PhlubbaDubba ,

Honestly, reminding them they're too poor to be affected probably isn't the best way to make a convincing argument.

Then again, that presumes good faith, and redcaps wouldn't know good faith if it burned them when their skin was exposed to it like a vampire.

disguy_ovahea ,

That’s not entirely true. Everyone is affected by Biden’s tax plan.

Yes, you’ll pay more in taxes if you make more than $400k, even more if you’re a corporation, billionaire, investment fund manager, use gift tax loopholes in trusts, or manipulate life insurance loopholes.

If you’re part of the working class, you’ll be paying lower taxes, earning increased child or low-income housing tax credits, as well as earned income credit.

https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy2169

Bye ,

What about retired people?

disguy_ovahea ,

The plan is closing the Medicare tax loophole for $400k+ earners. I didn’t mention it because it’s an additional tax on the first category mentioned in both the meme and my comment.

rockSlayer ,

Retired people are generally working class too. Unless the person owns/owned a large corporation, that is.

tacosanonymous ,

Doesn’t that make them not retired?

rockSlayer ,

I cannot functionally tell the difference from doing 2 hours of work at a Hampton vacation home and being retired. So I would say "not necessarily".

tacosanonymous ,

It’s a dollar amount in America though.

disguy_ovahea ,

You’re allowed to work as many hours as you want and continue to collect Social Security once you reach full retirement age. You’ll be taxed on your earned income as well as Social Security benefits.

https://www.ssa.gov/benefits/retirement/planner/whileworking.html

rockSlayer ,

That's my point. A billionaire owner can be functionally retired while still being "employed". A worker who's 65 years old cannot.

Bye ,

Sure but they get their money the same way the rich do, via capital gains.

rockSlayer ,

Capitalism forces even the unwilling to participate. It's a matter of fact that the only way to afford a retirement in the last 50 years as a worker is to invest in private capital. I already want to see the total annihilation of coerced labor, I don't want to work for my entire life.

Neato ,
@Neato@ttrpg.network avatar

That would be in lieu of income taxes, yes. Also doesn't apply for ss or pensions.

disguy_ovahea ,

Not necessarily. Social Security is taxable income. About 40% of people who collect it make enough to have to pay taxes on it. They’d be in the same tax brackets as the lower end of the working class. The remaining 60% make too little to pay taxes on their annual income.

https://www-origin.ssa.gov/benefits/retirement/planner/taxes.html#:~:text=About%2040%25%20of%20people%20who,in%20addition%20to%20your%20benefits.

bamboo ,

But one day I might be a billionaire and when that happens, I don't want to pay taxes.

Fedizen ,

god will make me a trillionare because my pastor has a corporate jet. I don't want any of my god dollars to go the gubmint.

TexasDrunk ,

Leela: Why are you cheering, Fry? You're not rich!

Fry: True, but someday I might be rich. And then people like me better watch their step.

FreudianCafe ,

Haha, very funny Genocide Joe, very funny

DaddleDew ,

Nice try, Dimitri.

Sanctus ,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

No, but the company that powers the servers they run on does.

And somehow a bunch of hicks in the boonies relate to these fucks when their ancestors used to run moonshine in fast cars around law enforcement. What happened?

cerement ,
@cerement@slrpnk.net avatar

when their ancestors fought against the same companies they’re deep-throating the boots of

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