SuddenDownpour ,

While you should vote for the best possible option, I feel like these kinds of posts are constantly shifting responsibility away from Democrats for their own short-comings.

A couple of weeks ago I voted in the European Parliament elections for the option that had, in my view, the best possible agenda: socially progressive, ecologist, economically left-leaning, decent foreign policy and coherent voting records. But the campaign they ran was absolutely terrible, starting by the candidate. Even though she is admittedly an accomplished woman who has had a very solid career, she doesn't know about the concept of charisma. She wasn't selected because she was the person who would perform the best in debates or in speeches (and she definitely wasn't), but rather, because she was an option that would provoke little conflict among the different factions of the coalition. That was the sign that the internal dynamics of the coalition had degenerated and were acting out of their own inertia, rather than seeking the best possible outcome.

Expectedly, we got about half the seats we were aiming for.

The very next day, the leader of the coalition resigned from that position. Even though she's a great minister (making policy), she's proven she isn't good at keeping the aparatus under control in order to achieve good results (doing politics). It's a painful process, but a necessary one where mistakes and short-comings must be admitted in order to grow into something more virtuous.

Having read US liberals for years, I grow more and more convinced that they're instinctively hostile to constructive criticism of their party's aparatus. And, when your country's voters declare themselves to agree far more with your party's policies than those of their direct opponent, and yet they can't bury their opponent into irrelevance, you have to admit that your party is doing electoralism wrong, and must question why.

captainjaneway ,
@captainjaneway@lemmy.world avatar

It's Gerrymandering. That's the answer to the question: why?

barsquid ,

TIL Dems are responsible for the EC, FPTP instead of proportional representation for Congress, the cap on number of representatives, gerrymandering, the decades of propaganda, Southern Strategy and so on. Thank you for informing me.

Yeah I ultimately do not like their choices. They have to run candidates who will win the swing states because a cult of rabid idiots who have more voting power per person than the rest of us consistently and reliably show up and vote entirely Repub from top to bottom of the ballot.

I mean, sure, fire the heads of the party and put new people in. Fuck 'em. But they aren't going to be able to win just by running candidates who appeal to the majority of the country, because the majority of the country's votes are diluted since they reside in densely populated cities. That's a sickening reality we all have to deal with.

ronflex ,

Yep it is all the voter's fault

Fidel_Cashflow ,
@Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml avatar

The party cannot fail, it can only be failed

SattaRIP ,

Democracy is when your government holds your (and many others around the world) life, health, and welfare hostage.

intensely_human ,

Stop running shit candidates?

Itdidnttrickledown ,

Perfect people expect a perfect politician. Lots of perfect people out there. /s

Saint_La_Croix_Crosse ,

Love how it is always the voter's fault, it's not candidates or parties job to appeal to voters.

slumlordthanatos ,

Preach. The DNC deserve their share of the blame, and berating voters for not wanting to vote for shit candidates (especially how the DNC sabotaged the likes of Howard Dean and Bernie Sanders).

Dubya was the result of GOP fuckery, but Trump was a self-inflicted wound.

FauxPseudo ,
@FauxPseudo@lemmy.world avatar

The moment Clinton announced Al Gore as his running mate he lost my vote. I was very familiar with Tipper Gore and the PMRC and had even read her book "Raising PG Kids in an X-Rated Society"*

There was no way I was going to vote for anyone remotely related to her to be in the White House. It was the first election I had participated in. I do not regret this vote because Clinton still became president and things didn't work out for various reasons.

  • These days that book couldn't even get published. The page count was too small. You can't get a book that is less than 300 pages published anymore as a standalone thing through major publisher. This should make you question how much filler there is in current nonfiction books.
h3mlocke ,
@h3mlocke@lemm.ee avatar

What a stupid fucking post. Like yeah, I'm voting for Biden. But the rest of that is bullshit. Remeber when we used to have primaries and people decided who would run? Yeah me neither, I guess that was before I was born.

homesweethomeMrL OP ,

Well thanks for crapping in it, i guess. We had primaries in 1992, 2000, 2004, 2008, 2016 (which, I’ll give you, was indeed bullshit), and 2020. Are you three years old? You’ve got a masterful command of bitchful snark for someone so young.

https://www.thoughtco.com/political-party-definition-4285031

Guy_Fieris_Hair ,

They rarely primary an incumbent, they usually win and all it does is damage the candidate for the general. However, the primaries are bs anyways, the DNC puts their hand on the scale

seathru ,
@seathru@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Unpopular opinion: These smarmy hot takes do more harm than good.

homesweethomeMrL OP ,

Hot take paradox alert

Guy_Fieris_Hair ,

Definitely, the more I see this shit the more I want to stay home and let them get what they deserve. But alas, I will be the one suffering, not them.

NauticalNoodle ,

I've never understood how so many voters could earnestly think that increasing the overall amount of condescension would ever actually net them more allies & supporters.

Diplomjodler3 ,

People still underestimate the damage the GWB presidency has done to the US' international standing and the living conditions of the average citizen. But sure, Gore was a huge bore with a giant stick up his arse.

werefreeatlast ,

But don't worry. We the people don't actually get to vote the new fucker in chief into office. We're too dumb. The electoral college composed of some random people who we don't know is the small group that actually gets to vote for the president. Our ballots are just suggestions.

prunerye ,

No, DNC, you're not out of touch. It's the voters who are wrong.

homesweethomeMrL OP ,

Who’s the DNC? We need names. Also the voters, i guess?

PapaStevesy ,

Key people:
Jaime Harrison (Chair)
Chris Korge (Finance chair)
Jason Rae (Secretary)

Taken from Wikipedia because who actually knows that shit

Guy_Fieris_Hair ,

That is really the best way to put my frustrations. IT IS NOT MY FAULT YOU DON'T LIKE ME, ITS YOURS. It is literally a popularity contest and you are worried about losing to a criminal. But sure, we are the crazies, not you. This country has never needed another party so bad.

lauha ,

Think how boring the world could be with Al Gore. US taking proper actions against climate change two decades ago.

You can't claim world wide pandemic followed by the world war three is boring.

Thteven ,
@Thteven@lemmy.world avatar

Quit putting up shit candidates assholes!

homesweethomeMrL OP ,

Yeah!

Psythik ,

Yeah seriously; this post sucks.

timewarp ,
@timewarp@lemmy.world avatar

AOC for President with Biden as VP. It would destroy the Republicans... they'd have strokes within a few days. With Biden as VP all the boomers that actually like Biden will be onboard.

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