Rubisco ,
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If Trixie had been packing this thing, that first episode of Deadwood would be a bit different.

Tar_alcaran ,

Looks like a perfect caliber to hold with 2 fingers.

dactylotheca OP ,
@dactylotheca@suppo.fi avatar

Terrific for MAD

PugJesus ,
@PugJesus@lemmy.world avatar

Davy Crockett derringer when

Death_Equity ,

Load it with .45-70(hardcast, thunderhead, or brass CFA) and .410(dragon's breath, flechette, or bolo), you will solve the problem one way or the other.

shalafi ,

I've got that version that shoots 410. Because of the rifling on it comes out in a pinwheel. If you shot me at 10-15", I doubt a single pellet would land.

Death_Equity ,

You see why I said dragon's breath, flechette, or bolo.

Akasazh ,

As a gun noob I'm quite lost in this thread. Anyone mind shedding some light on this?

PugJesus ,
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For the comic itself:

So, a derringer is a small pistol, usually with two shots, made for close-range self-defense. Normally they use, well, pistol rounds, like a 9mm, which has like, 700 joules of energy or someshit like that. When you fire a lightweight gun, you definitely get some kickback from it, even with a pistol round.

A 45-70 is a big-ass rifle round with something like 4000 joules of energy behind it. You uh, you put that in a little derringer and pull the trigger, both you and your target are gonna feel it.

This also might help put it into perspective

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i89cMnfxXy0

For the comment, hardcast is a hardened bullet alloy (lead bullets are heavy but soft; alloying it with other metals makes it harder) for when you need to get through something thick, like a boar, or a human being's entire fucking body. Not sure about thunderhead or CFA. 410 is a shotgun caliber. Dragon's Breath is a fun little round that replaces the bullet with pyrotechnics, while flechettes spray you with these ugly little things.

A bolo round is apparently a bolo but fired from a gun. I've never heard of it before today but let me just say that I love the weird things people come up with.

Death_Equity ,

"Thunderhead" is hardcast or an alloy with a channel cut in both sides that causes it to do some gnarly stuff to soft tissue as the round hits and the tissue "splashes" through the gaps instead of displacing from the round. Kind of a more extreme version of a Lehigh Defense Xtreme Defense.

"CFA" is Controlled Fracturing Ammunition, like the G2 RIP. Think hollowpoint but the petals are meant to disperse into the target while the back of the round dumps energy.

"Bolo" isn't meant to tie something up like a normal bolo, it just allows the round halves to widen out and disperse energy across a wider area. Some people like them for shooting turkey necks, but those people are weird.

PugJesus ,
@PugJesus@lemmy.world avatar

“Bolo” isn’t meant to tie something up like a normal bolo, it just allows the round halves to widen out and disperse energy across a wider area.

I figured it was like chain shot, just without a clear purpose beyond "Because we can"

Death_Equity ,

It does have some value(like shooting a turkey neck to avoid lead-tainted meat), but it is a novelty or exotic round at the end of the day since it is far too powerful a round to be used for squirrel privateering. Also most woodland mammal cargo vessels haven't use sails for decades before the bolo round cartridge became viable.

It may be a bit of a joke round, but it wouldn't be very funny to find yourself at the business end of a derringer with one in the pipe.

Akasazh ,

Thnx!

pelletbucket ,
@pelletbucket@lemm.ee avatar

lol flechette? fudd alert

over_clox ,

Needs a banana for scale.

skillissuer Mod ,
@skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

.45-70 length is about 1/3 banana

over_clox ,

Damn, my eyes didn't deceive me after all. That's a big ass bullet, especially for a Derringer!

dactylotheca OP ,
@dactylotheca@suppo.fi avatar

That's a big ass-bullet

jmd_akbar ,

https://xkcd.com/37 😜

nBodyProblem , (edited )

Full power 45-70 is extremely punishing to shoot out of a lever action rifle much less a derringer

Tar_alcaran ,

Only if you have big bananas

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