My Health Insurance Company Is Trying To Kill Me ( www.huffpost.com )

One such encounter went like this:

Me: “Hi. I’m calling about my daughter’s ambulance and hospital charges. I haven’t been able to reach my grievance coordinator about the appeal.”

Representative: “I can help you.”

**Me: **(Genuinely excited.) “Great!”

Representative: “Oh, I see your daughter turned 18. I can’t discuss her information with you.”

Me: “I sent a release of information form by mail, fax and email. I also faxed our conservatorship papers.”

Representative: “I’m sorry, it’s not on file. What office did you send it to?”

Me: (I give the information.)

Representative: “That’s the wrong fax number. Let me give you the correct one.”

Me: “I’m not inventing numbers out of the ether. This is the third new fax number I’ve been given. Are the address and email inaccurate too?”

Representative: “I’m sorry, but I can’t discuss your daughter’s claims with you without this information. Can you put her on the phone to give verbal consent?”

**Me: **“I can’t put her on the phone. She’s currently in a treatment center and has no access to a phone, which is why I have a conservatorship to help with her medical care.”

Representative: “I’m sorry, ma’am. There’s nothing I can do without the forms or her verbal consent.”

Me: “Who do you think pays the insurance premium and all her providers? I’m just trying to settle her claims, and I don’t know what we owe without access.”

Representative: “I can only answer general questions.”

Me: “OK. From the bills I’ve received, we’re being charged out-of-network fees for the ambulance, ER, ER doctor and hospital.”

Representative: “Was this out of state?”

**Me: **“Yes.”

Representative: “Hang on, I have to transfer you.”

I was on hold for another 15 minutes, and then got cut off. I called back, was transferred twice and then repeated a version of the above conversation before resuming — with a grievance coordinator! 

Grievance coordinator: “The ambulance and ER facility were both out of state and out of network.”

Me: “A treatment center called for an ambulance. I wasn’t given a choice of who responded or where they took her.”

Grievance coordinator: “They used out-of-network providers.”

Me: “They dialed 911. No one stops to ask the closest ambulance what their network status is.”

Grievance coordinator: “They did transfer her to an in-network hospital, but the physicians were not participating providers.”

**Me: **“Under the No Surprises Act, insurance must cover all providers in the case of an emergency, whether they are in network or not — even if out of state.”

(There was a long silence.)

Me: “Are you still there?”

Grievance coordinator: “Yes, ma’am. Once you get the conservatorship papers to us, we can look at those claims. Is there anything else I can help you with?”

Me: “Apparently not.”

Drusas ,
  1. Yes, they are. They don't care about their customers, just the premiums they can rake in without paying out on.

  2. Being the person who pays the bills does not and should not grant that person access to another person's medical records, even if that person is a parent. I get that you submitted the authorization in this case, but I am speaking generally in response to your comment which seemed to imply that third parties should be given medical information if they are the ones paying the bill.

Fedizen ,

Should call it death insurance not health insurance.

catloaf ,

That's called life insurance.

SpeedLimit55 ,

I worked for a company who went with a cut rate insurance provider one year who basically denied or screwed up every claim. This required calls, faxes and hours wasted any time anyone had a medical procedure. The kicker was that the insurance company hours were the same as our company hours so all of this had to happen during company time. They went with a proper provider the next year.

xenomor , (edited )

As an American, I’m legit terrified of sustaining some kind of injury or extended illness. The society we have constructed, and that we tolerate, is an absolute abomination. Let me say it again. The United States is an absolute, top to bottom, left to right shit hole. We do not value people, life, or well being in any meaningful or equitable way. This is an economy masquerading as a society.

SquishyPandaDev ,
@SquishyPandaDev@yiffit.net avatar

Insurance is a scam. Get hospitality bill as self pay and tell them to go pound sand. Lo and behold they will quickly work out a reduced amount and a reasonable payment plan

YarHarSuperstar ,
@YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world avatar

Unfortunately this isn't an option for many folks, as they have insurance because there's no way to afford the bills that they would be sending if one didn't have insurance, even if a hefty discount was applied.

Mereo ,
@Mereo@lemmy.ca avatar

Unfortunately, the US will never change. This rabid individualism and savage capitalism is too ingrained in the country's psyche for it to change.

homesweethomeMrL OP ,

Although I don’t believe that, i do believe the amount of needless suffering required to force that change is too damned high

WaxiestSteam69 ,

mereo@lemmy.ca is correct. We'll never fix anything in the US. I used to be hopefulbut there's just now ay as long as people buy into the BS conservatives sell.

teodor_from_achewood ,

Before switching providers I had similar experiences, to the point where I'd start every call with "Please transfer me to a manager. You can help me by transferring me to a manager. No I need to be transferred to a manager. You're not a manager so you can't help me," and so on and it was the only way to get whoever answered the phone to give me straight answers on the first try.

originalucifer ,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

health insurance companies only profit when human beings suffer. full stop.

the only people rooting for these companies is either in on the take, or hasnt suffered their 'service' or are too rich to care. thus proving healthcare is for the rich only

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