MehBlah ,

I wouldn't have laughed. I would have told them how I really feel.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I'm sure he got a lot of that too, but I'm guessing the laughter stung more.

cultsuperstar ,

An article on about the pastor letting Trump speak there. He was hoping it was a chance for his churchgoers to be heard.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2024/06/15/detroit-church-hosting-donald-trump-for-roundtable-faces-criticism/74093920007/

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

"For him to have a community conversation, I thought it was an opportunity to be able to really give the least of these, the disenfranchised and marginalized, an opportunity to have a voice at the table because typically we're on the menu," Sewell said. "If you come to Grand River, if you walk through our community, you will see, quite frankly, that it's desolate. ... (Trump campaign officials) didn't want to talk to people that had high prestige and high power positions. They wanted to talk to the least of these."

If that's what this guy really believed, he's a naïve fool. Trump doesn't give a shit what poor people have to say and he only gives a shit about black people if they're rich and they only say nice things about him.

The Trump campaign officials wanting to talk to "the least of these" is utter hogwash unless by "the least," they mean morally.

mozz Admin , (edited )
mozz avatar

I actually really like it how the historically helplessly oppressed places are starting to get woke

(Meaning, like, the old definition of woke)

Parts of Georgia and Michigan are turning into these activist hotbeds + I'm here for it

Telodzrum ,

Tell me you know nothing of American political history without telling me you know nothing of American political history.

mozz Admin ,
mozz avatar

?

“Historically” I meant like 1980-2015 or so

Was I not aware? I thought the big liberal cities on the coasts were the centers of activism, and the middle and the Southeast mostly got preyed upon by the American Thatcherites, and either said “More please” or “Aaaaah it hurts” with none of this “Fuck you stop that” energy that’s coming into play now. But maybe I was unaware of an activist history there?

bloodfart ,

Idk what that person was referring to, but the hotbeds of American activism, especially worker activism, were in Americas internal periphery for almost all of the 20th century.

Especially labor and equal rights struggles were often in the rural or suburban (this used to mean living near a factory before it meant that joni Mitchell song about the little houses!) near cities as opposed to in the cities themselves.

Heck, it’s trod ground but the government bombed mine workers in ‘21!

mozz Admin ,
mozz avatar

Absolutely accurate yes. I meant post 1980; I should have specified. Back in the days when people were making big progress, it was all over (and rural more so than in the cities) as I understand it.

Xepher ,
@Xepher@kbin.run avatar

lol, good

ChicoSuave ,

Did he throw in some Trump signed bibles?

JeeBaiChow ,

Fool. He doesn't throw. He sells.

FlyingSquid ,
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I saw a clip of a pastor on YouTube who reviews Bibles (weird but whatever) and he got a copy of the Trump Bible. The so-called "real leather" was not just obviously fake, it had a crease in it. The whole thing felt cheap and he pointed out that it didn't say where it was printed and if it was printed in the U.S., they would have made a big deal about that, which probably meant some Asian country.

Not a shock that the his Bible is a scam as well, I know.

bazus1 ,

Unless the event was to hide from Trunp in a place that he'd never find them, they were right to laugh in your face.

snausagesinablanket ,
@snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world avatar

Will the church start paying taxes since it supports politicians?

Potatos_are_not_friends ,
Drusas , (edited )

I'm usually all with you on that complaint, but this case is different. They didn't promote Trump. They hosted a roundtable with him. Presumably, they would do the same with Biden were his campaign to request it.

Trump was trying to reach predominantly Democratic or non-voting black voters in Detroit by going to a predominantly black church, and he failed, pulling in a white crowd instead.

slickJujitsu ,
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Think you mean Trump in the second paragraph

JeeBaiChow ,

It's projection all the way down with them.

TexasDrunk , (edited )

I had to reread after reading your comment because I was sure the guy was talking about Trump.

Edit: Turns out that person was talking about Trump! Just an innocent mistake on their part.

Drusas ,

Yes, thank you. Brain fart moment.

forrgott ,

Really? You cannot be serious.

"They asked me to promote them, but I didn't offer. So I'm not actually promoting them."

Your entire argument is completely irrelevant. And promoting both candidates (like hell that would actually happen, but sure, buddy, we'll give you the benefit of the non-existent doubt), that's literally claiming two wrongs make a right. Which, they don't. At all.

And nice job copy/pasting the wrong name; totally didn't make any of us think you're working a script here. Not at all. (Whatever they're paying you, they're getting ripped off)

Drusas ,

I didn't copy paste. I spoke too quickly and made an error.

No need to be a jerk.

And yes, what I said is relevant. The activity matters.

Snowclone ,

Consider this, if the pastor wanted to hurt Trump, inviting him to talk at a black church is a hell of a weapon.

I'm don't know what the goal was here, and I'm not disagreeing with you, just that on the surface, this backfired on Trump badly, which would have been easy to predict.

Red_October ,

It's only a good way to hurt him in the way that anyone ever giving Trump the chance to speak is a weapon against his campaign. He'll manage to fuck it up in some way every chance he gets, but the only people who will ever care already have a laundry list of reasons to hate him.

Snowclone ,

I agree they should be taxed. That being said, I don't know this man's goals, but inviting Trump to an open mic at a black church makes his son of a KKK member views just SO much more damaging. I really wish he got more offers like this.

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