henfredemars ,

I don’t understand how one can be a woman and carry so much hatred for your own gender.

i_dont_want_to ,

"I behaved the correct way, and this did not happen to me. If everyone else did the same as me, they wouldn't suffer. Since their suffering is preventable, they cannot complain and must suck it up."

"See? I'm on your side. Treat me better than you treat them, please."

Source: live in a red US state and have talked to a few conservative women and minorities

henfredemars ,

Sure but I mean… Wouldn’t you want to try to make the world a better place in general? Why do we have to force some people into a suffering underclass?

gAlienLifeform ,
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When one person stands up by themselves or with only a small group around them, the powers that be drop the hammer on them and everyone who was sympathetic and might have supported them gets scared back into line

givesomefucks ,

You're forgetting the ones who had abortions, but 30 years later regret it because they imagine it would have made their life better if they had the kid.

They think they're "saving" the next generation, when really they have no idea what their lives would have been like if they had their own kid.

Kids are a huge change in lifestyle, and they're just think of.missed positives and not the missed negatives.

It's just how our brains work. Same as with the lockdown curbing how bad COVID was, because we avoided the worst negatives, people think they werent a possible result. And just look back at the potential positives they could have experienced.

They're obviously not right. But that line of thinking is pretty normal.

If we want to fix the problem, we need to properly identify what's causing it.

Lots of time it's just our brains working exactly as they evolved to work.

givesomefucks ,

Skop serves as vice-president and director of medical affairs for the national anti-abortion research group Charlotte Lozier Institute and is a member of the American Association of Pro-Life Obstetricians and Gynecologists. She is also a plaintiff in a US supreme court lawsuit seeking to revoke the Food and Drug Administration’s approval of the key abortion drug mifepristone, which she argues is “dangerous” despite years of evidence showing the drug is safe. She has authored a number of research papers that were ultimately retracted for misleading errors.

We can't beat far right extremism with moderate politics.

There's no compromising with people who lie and say anything to get what they want.

disguy_ovahea ,

I’d argue that we can beat them from any position, as long as we do it in unity.

Empricorn ,

We also have to overcome gerrymandering, which SCOTUS just said is legal (as long as the GOP pretends to disenfranchise people for political reasons rather than racial ones). At the same time, we need to overwhelm voter suppression with enough genuine votes that it isn't effective. Same with the Electoral College, the illegitimate Supreme Court, and the Senate, which gives outsized influence to big, empty Red States and fight against the unlimited flow of dark money in politics...

It can all still be done, but we have to all vote, donate, and volunteer, as well be unified as you said. My big unity wish is messaging. No one can compete with Fox News because Right Wing Media is very good at staying on-message and we're a "big tent" party, but still; we have to be better at it...

aniki ,

None of that is going to happen. The empire would rather fall. - History.

SeaJ ,

Mifepristone, which we have known is safe for over 40 years, is apparently too dangerous but a 9 year old giving birth is a-okay how this quack.

givesomefucks ,

That's what I mean

They 100% know it's safe.

But they do t like that it's legal for other reasons that they know don't have plausible deniability.

So they claim (against all science) it's dangerous, and count on extremists judges to pretend they believe it and outlaw it on that premise.

No amount of factual evidence about the safety of the drug will change any of their actions, because they don't give a single fuck if it's safe or not.

Moderates always fall for the trap and take them at their word. Which is insane, and at this point it seems safe to say the reason is they have a lot of the same donors, and part of the strings to that money is going along with the dog and pony show even tho everyone involved already knows what the result will be.

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