FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I worked hybrid 18 at home, 22 at the office and it sucked.

It showed me three things:

• It showed me that I was far more productive when I was at home and I was comfortable and not distracted.

• It showed me that I was coming into the office for absolutely no logical reason (even while there, all discussion was via Slack and Zoom).

• It showed me that the company's leadership was incompetent.

This wasn't even a 'we paid for the space, we have to use it' issue. This was an office job at a light industrial facility where no one had to be in the office. If they didn't have us come in, they could have knocked down the office area and put in another line or two. Just incompetence.

9point6 ,

ITT people with drastically different ideas of what hybrid is.

Why do I feel like the next phase of this is changing the expectations of hybrid to be more like "9 in the office, 1 day from home"

young_broccoli ,

Defeated?
Wasn't the aim full WFH?

SonnyVabitch ,

Hybrid is a compromise that makes no sense to either party. The company still has to maintain an expensive office while being limited to the talent pool within commutable distance. The employee still has to waste countless (albeit fewer) hours travelling while being limited to job opportunities within ~20 miles of their residence.

DacoTaco ,
@DacoTaco@lemmy.world avatar

Hybrid does make sense. There are people who work better in an office ( like myself ) and there are people who are better working from home ( like my coworker ). The company i work for believes hybrid is the way to go so that you can supply an office for people like me, but also hire people who work remotely. However, nobody is saying you need to have an office that can house 100% of you employees. 60% is good enough as not everyone will be in the office at the same time. Money saved!

That said, some meetings are better to have in person so once in a while a required in person meeting is needed.

I believe in the words of my company : everyone, everywhere. And that includes an office or, which has happened, from working from spain, germany or thailand which are all remote locations in no way connected with the company. These were people who legit lived abroad or were looking after a vacation home of a friend

alpacapants ,

We have hybrid and it actually really works. We hire countrywide and if you don't live near an office you are fully remote. But if you do live near an office you can go in anytime. I don't like going to the office, but if I need to print or ship, or need to meet a client or coworker it's nice to have the option. Also anytime I have an issue, I can pop in the office to check out new hardware, or work if my home is unsuitable due to whatever ( power outage, noisy maintenance, over 90 degrees since we don't have AC, sick kid). However, I think hybrid only works if there is no minimum requirement on time in office. If it is at the teams discretion the home office becomes an amenity. We also downsized from something like 200 cubes to around sixty, so that helps too.

GiddyGap ,

I think hybrid only works if there is no minimum requirement on time in office.

Then it's not really hybrid, it's actually fully WFH with the option to come in. Hybrid forces you to come in.

Melkath ,

Which leads to the question, and its an honest question and I would benefit from the honest answer: If I can do the job hybrid, why can I not do the job remote? Is it because you needed me to move some paper boxes to the printer?

SlopppyEngineer ,

Coaching newbies doesn't work that well remotely, so you'll have to be at the office more for them to ask you questions, otherwise they're stuck in the simplest things for days.

EnderMB ,

Any evidence to back that up?

That's the line my CEO used, but we had plenty of hires join during COVID that have excelled while here, with lots of talented engineers that had to leave because they were forced to an office hundreds of miles away.

SlopppyEngineer ,

Personal experience. The juniors just out of school and interns are invariably stuck in something trivial that can often be solved with looking at their stuff for a few seconds. They don't dare to disturb you with any questions and need a lot of explaining. Doing all the explaining through the screen is a pain and you have to hound them with calls to get them to ask questions.

Experienced new hires don't have that issue. They can Google stuff, read a manual and know when to send a message for a blocking issue.

That's doesn't mean send everybody to the office. Just the new guy and the coach should be enough in most cases and reduce the presence as they hit their stride.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

The juniors just out of school and interns are invariably stuck in something trivial that can often be solved with looking at their stuff for a few seconds.

If only there were a way to share your screen remotely...

lagomorphlecture ,

This is evidence that you need to adjust your training methods.

ramble81 ,

Our company is doing the opposite and forcing everyone to RTW 5-days a week. Can’t wait for the exodus and the “I told you so”

pendulum_ ,
@pendulum_@lemmy.world avatar

As it should be. Hybrid is the correct answer. Not full time RTO, not full time at home, Hybrid. The negotiation is in how hybrid should look, and will vary from situation to situation

jeena ,
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Hybrid is the worst of both worlds, you don't meet your collegues when you're at the office because they choose to be in on a different day, and you can't live where ever in a similar timezone because you still need to be able to get to the office in a reasonable time.

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