Num10ck ,

note that Japanese read pictures from right to left, while Western readers read left to right. Westerners view the last image as an awesome wave and usually miss the boats, while Japanese viewers relate to the boats first and then feel how doomed they are.

rektdeckard ,
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I never imagined how this would apply to images. Fascinating! I wonder what other art has a totally different tone to native RTL readers.

modifier ,

I learned this from hentai

modifier ,

I mean manga

trolololol ,

Sure

modifier ,

But to be serious for a moment, I just happen to be watching The Great War Of Archimedes right now and it is only now dawning on me how much of the action takes place from right to left.

Now, I believe this film was based on a Manga, so it is less surprising that it would inherently adopt that visual language, but now I am going to be watching all Japanese cinema more closely to see how fundamentally RTL impacts the approach to film making.

littlebluespark ,
@littlebluespark@lemmy.world avatar

Switching hands doesn't count.

SofiaFranklyn ,

Dude, I've never noticed the boats.

MIDItheKID ,

Well now I'm just confused about how I am supposed to read the image. Like... It's numbered 1 2 3 4. Is that top left to bottom right? Which one is the "last" one? Which one is the "first" one?

I could probably just look it up, but ehh.

MonkderDritte ,

How could you miss the 3 boats?

Num10ck ,

try flipping the picture horizontally, its a very different experience

MonkderDritte ,

…still 3 boats.

littlebluespark ,
@littlebluespark@lemmy.world avatar

So, the mariners' perspective, then?

Psychodelic ,

Wait that's 2 more fuckin boats? Wth!

Anything else you wanna add? Is there a dragon somewhere I'm not seeing as well

CoggyMcFee ,

Yes… BEHIND YOU!

acockworkorange ,

Huh. Started at waist high and ended as five times Mount Fuji.

redcalcium ,

You're probably one of those that missed the (3) boats.

DestroyMegacorps ,

TIDAL WAVE FROM GD REFERENCE???

feedum_sneedson ,

Well that first wave is fucking tiny.

UrPartnerInCrime ,
@UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works avatar

Maybe the great wave is death in his eyes?

SkyezOpen ,

That's the OK wave. Followed by the decent wave, then the pretty good wave. The last one is the great wave.

NoneYa ,

That 3rd one brings out the thalassophobia in me. Think it’s the dark color and odd shape of the wave.

MonkderDritte ,

What sophia?

SplashJackson ,

But but AI could do it better and it's not even ten years old yet!!!!!!

Also the waves would have titties

moody ,

Also the waves would have titties

Well I'm sold

Redfox8 ,

And seven fingers

trolololol ,

Then you need 3 titties to match

someguy3 ,

Context?

MeatsOfRage ,

The Japanese artist Hokusai and his art. The last painting is quite famous but most of us haven't seen the pieces that helped him develop his style along the way.

Deconceptualist ,
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These are actually woodblock prints, not paintings. But yes Hokusai was one of the great masters of the technique. The art style here from the Edo period is called Ukiyo-e, or "floating world" / "transient world".

feedum_sneedson ,
Nacktmull ,
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Very interesting, I have never seen the earlier versions before. I wonder why I can't find a Fuji in two of those, because The Great Wave is part of a "Views of Mt. Fuji" series.

PrinceWith999Enemies ,

Painted on cloudy days.

Nacktmull , (edited )
@Nacktmull@lemmy.world avatar

Lol, that would be such a troll move in a series of Fuji paintings. As far as I known Hokusai painted mainly two things, landscapes including Mt. Fuji and explicit porn scenes. He was a trained Mt. Fuji Painter, which is a respected craft with a specialized apprenticeship in Japan btw.

JohnnyEnzyme ,
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Well, notice the final version does include Fuji. For some reason OP neglected to post it, so here: Sea is for Cookie

(and yes, this was a random encounter!)

Nacktmull ,
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Hahaha, I love it!

Infynis ,
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Through this, we can conclude that Hokusai was the first Benjamin Button, due to his perspective getting shorter each time

PugJesus Mod ,
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Hey, I'm going to leave this up since it's aroused interest, but for future reference, HistoryPorn is for photographs. HistoryDrawings or HistoryArtifacts would be more appropriate for this kind of content.

FlyingSquid OP ,
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I apologize. It's been too long since I read the rules in the sidebar.

PugJesus Mod ,
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No worries! I'm always happy to see contributions, just letting you know for future reference.

brbposting ,
kender242 ,
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Would you mind linking to the other instances?

Didn't know I would need to subscribe to multiple families of a history porn 😅

PugJesus Mod ,
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Xtallll ,
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Each of theese communities is averaging between 1 post a week and one post a month, why not combine them into one community that could be getting 3 posts a week?

ysjet ,

Yeah, this is just needless pedantism and ego-stroking.

masquenox ,

Technically it is a photograph. Before the digital age, you couldn't do repro on squat unless you photographed it first.

Xtallll ,
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Lemmy isn't really big enough yet to support small communities like that. Reddit needed to make super niche communities because it's so busy.

DarkDarkHouse ,
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Clearly this belongs in HistoryDrawingsOfJapaneseWater

acockworkorange ,

What about actual historical works of pornography?

PugJesus Mod ,
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HistoryArtifacts for porn etched on some artistic physical medium, HistoryDrawings for reconstructions of pornographic historical scenes, HistoryPorn for photographic porn?

Valmond ,

Autochrome 1907-1912

Like this?

Bluffing IMO.

1907/1912 Autochrome photograph.

d00ery ,

But which way are the pictures displayed?

1 2 
3 4

1 3
2 4
snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

Top left is going to be first, bottom right is last. Since bottom left is pretty close in structure to bottom right, I'm going with top left, top right, bottom left, bottom right.

That fits the reading pattern of western cultures.

Tar_alcaran ,

Well if it's japanese, I'd say option B..

But the paintings look more like A is correct.

Halosheep ,

If it's Japanese if should go

3 1

4 2

d00ery ,

Good point! I haven't been reading enough manga to remember it's from the right to the left ..

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_writing_system

terabytes ,

I believe this is a screenshot of a Twitter post, which would make the order your first example.

MeatsOfRage ,

Left right top bottom, like how we read. You can see a pretty linear evolution in the style.

ech ,

I think that's the intended way too, but it's not exactly a given as other languages have different reading patterns. Japan, for instance, reads right to left, and others read vertically.

MeatsOfRage ,

Yea but this is in English made for an English community. It's pretty safe to assume.

trolololol ,

Right to left, top to bottom

3 1

4 2

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