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Amaterasu , in Gaming on the AMD Framework 13! Native, Docked & eGPU Performance.

Thunderbolt 4 is a huge disappointment hopefully things improve for eGPUs docks with TB5 and USB 4 v2

Sverik , in Silly 16 question

Yes! I haven't thought of a solution yet, not sure also if it would be better if the gap was smaller or bigger.

For Framework I would suggest to just create a trackpad with the full width plate, possibly with a few different alignments. It would be a loss for modularity, I do understand that.

Easiest solution would be to just shave the hair, I guess? :D

TheButtonJustSpins OP ,

I've thought about doing that several times now.

A single piece wouldn't help, since I also get caught in the trackpad piece, not just the spacers.

Sverik ,

Oh, you mean the laptop frame and trackpad? Anyway, I've made a diagram.

  1. This is what you mean? Never happened to me.
  2. Or is this it? Hard to believe, never happened.
  3. This the bane of my hair, multiple times have I been stuck here.
  4. This probably as well, not so sure.
  5. My hand usually does not linger there, so no complaints.

https://sopuli.xyz/pictrs/image/826a86e1-8b8a-46a0-9461-b92dfeedc934.webp---

TheButtonJustSpins OP ,

2 definitely happens to me

fl42v , in [SOLVED] Framework laptop 16 won't boot at all after failed Linux Mint install

The error shown in the image is unreadable. Can you take a pic of it specifically?

Tolookah , in [SOLVED] Framework laptop 16 won't boot at all after failed Linux Mint install

I'm not able to help, but That text is really hard to read, can you either type it out or give a much better picture?

s12 OP ,
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Sorry. The hosting site may have reduced the quality. I've added a transcription to the post.

sloppy_diffuser , in [SOLVED] Framework laptop 16 won't boot at all after failed Linux Mint install

I can kind of make out "Not Found" as the last words on every line with efi on the first line.

I don't have a framework so don't know the ins and out but my guess here is you need to hit whatever key is needed to bring up the boot drive selection menu to pick the installer USB.

You could also check that USB is towards the top in the BIOS settings if you want to change the default boot priority.

I don't know if CMOS battery resetting is still a thing; I haven't done it in a decade. That is another thought if some bad state (e.g., secure boot) is still getting held by the mobo chipset. I'd confirm with some documentation or Framework support first though. I've never done it on a secure boot system.

s12 OP ,
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Thanks.

I've updated my post to add a transcription to the body.

hit whatever key is needed to bring up the boot drive selection menu to pick the installer USB.

It's already the only option there. I just got the same error.

I'm pretty sure the issue is with secure boot.

sloppy_diffuser ,

Check my other reply. Looks like your options are to rename a file or two, or change some BIOS/EFI settings to look for a different boot file (if available), or CMOS reset to clear nvram.

sloppy_diffuser , in [SOLVED] Framework laptop 16 won't boot at all after failed Linux Mint install

Here is a thread with your exact issue: https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=412942

s12 OP ,
@s12@sopuli.xyz avatar

Thank you.

This looks very promising. It doesn't seem to let me write to my live usb though. It just says "Read-only file system" (even when using sudo).

sloppy_diffuser ,

Are you booted off the USB? That won't work, they usually have a ram drive overlay. You'll have to boot from another OS and mount the USB to edit the files.

If it still comes up read-only trying searching some solutions for mounting in read/write. You might have to recreate the ISO USB and edit the files before first booting off it. Maybe there is a resize script to use the full disk on first boot that does some funky stuff or something.

https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/13225/how-do-i-remove-a-read-only-file-system-from-a-usb-drive
https://askubuntu.com/questions/910585/remove-read-only-partition-from-usb

s12 OP , (edited )
@s12@sopuli.xyz avatar

Are you booted off the USB?

No. I plugged it into my current laptop that already has Linux Mint installed.

If it still comes up read-only trying searching some solutions for mounting in read/write. You might have to recreate the ISO USB and edit the files before first booting off it. Maybe there is a resize script to use the full disk on first boot that does some funky stuff or something.

Thanks. I'll look into it. ... edit: not having much luck so far.

Luci , in [SOLVED] Framework laptop 16 won't boot at all after failed Linux Mint install
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Kinda sounds like the bootloader didn't install or the boot partition got mangled.

If there isn't anything of value you could just reinstall, would make sense to use fresh media and use the built in verification before installation.

If you need the data back, use a valid live cd to copy it off the system first.

Edit: consider a page file over a swap partition as it can be adjusted on the fly without a reboot. I work with VMs a lot and having a page file has been very helpful when I need a little boost or want to slim down.

s12 OP ,
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Umm... thank you, but I'm not sure you understood my issue.

If there isn’t anything of value you could just reinstall

use a valid live cd

I ... can't.

I don't have any data that needs backing up. It's a new computer. I'm trying to install, but I can't boot off the live media.

Luci ,
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Does the bios have an option to EFI boot from a USB? Sometimes there is a tiny file manager in the boot options that will allow you to boot from an EFI file off a USB key and not just by selecting a different boot option, the issue here seems to be that the firmware is trying to boot from a file that doesn't exist. The odd part is that it won't work from your USB because it seem to be trying to chain boot efi files that don't exist.

Are you sure your live media is good? Does it boot on another system?

s12 OP ,
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Sometimes there is a tiny file manager in the boot options that will allow you to boot from an EFI file off a USB key and not just by selecting a different boot option,

This worked!!

Back into my live environment now.

I'll update my post once I've checked that there are no further problems.

Luci ,
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Glad I could help, please leave an upvote on your way out :))

Mangoholic , in [SOLVED] Framework laptop 16 won't boot at all after failed Linux Mint install

I am 1st time linux user I wanted to install mint from usb. At first it worked then when i tried to install it, I could not because of bitlocker. I then rebooted but windows already activated bitlocker, and afterwards any usb boot would show the exact same error message you have.
I ultimately had to wipe my encrypted partition of win and installed Ubuntu instead. I am happy for now, learning to use linux with Ubuntu and maybe try mint or arch when more advanced.
Maybe that helps you in some way best of luck.

WheelcharArtist , in [SOLVED] Framework laptop 16 won't boot at all after failed Linux Mint install

maybe go to the boot manager and explicitly boot from the usb drive?
seems like your uefi has an entry for which no file was found because your install failed?

s12 OP ,
@s12@sopuli.xyz avatar

Already tried that.

It's definitely trying to boot off the USB. There's nothing else for it to boot from.

narc0tic_bird , in [SOLVED] Framework laptop 16 won't boot at all after failed Linux Mint install
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I had pretty much the same problem on a ThinkPad T490 after a borked Mint install. It tells the EFI to boot into MOK Manager but doesn't provide it under the path (mmx64.efi).

I don't 100 % remember what I did to fix it but I think I booted into an EFI Shell and wiped boot entries off the NVRAM. Resetting the BIOS should do that, but this may vary by manufacturer.

lorgo_numputz , in [SOLVED] Framework laptop 16 won't boot at all after failed Linux Mint install

Upvoted because you came back to put in the solution

s12 OP ,
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Thank you.

MudMan , in Framework open sources the 3D CAD design files for its modular 16 inch laptop
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I want a convertible Framework device with a detachable keyboard so bad.

I don't need another laptop, but a modular standalone tablet-ish screen with an optional typing surface and shipping Linux as an option? I'd be so there, especially if paired with upcoming ARM SoCs.

magnor OP ,
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That would indeed be incredible.

theshatterstone54 ,

So like a Surface but open and for Linux? Yeah, that sounds great!

biscuitswalrus , in Framework open sources the 3D CAD design files for its modular 16 inch laptop

Great news!

avidamoeba , in Framework open sources the 3D CAD design files for its modular 16 inch laptop
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Does that mean that another firm could create an alternative chassis that takes Framework parts?

synapse1278 ,
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Yes.

HootinNHollerin , (edited )

I don’t read it as that. They say it’s to enable accessories etc. I think the cad is of the external shell only:

Framework Laptop 16 © 2024 by Framework Computer Inc is licensed under CC BY 4.0. To view a copy of this license, visit http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

External 3D CAD of the system and main modules to enable development of 3D-printed replacement parts, skins, cases, and other accessories.

SteveTech , in Framework open sources the 3D CAD design files for its modular 16 inch laptop

The CAD files for the Framework 13 have also been out for a few years too.

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