“As this keeps popping up even after multiple responses, let this be the “official” response so we can put this to bed, at least for now.
It is not that Framework “does not care” about Coreboot, it is that we have a very long list of priorities for a very small team (we are less than 50 globally and have existed for less than 3 years) and while being able to support Coreboot would be fantastic, it is just not a priority for Framework right now given the sheer number of initiatives that we have to launch now and in the immediate future. We pivot from one NPI (New Product Introduction) to the next, back to back, and have since our first product launch. Our firmware/BIOS team is small and is supplemented by an outside 3rd Party partner. The consistent, “well, just hire more people then” is unfortunate as those in the know understand that’s not how it works, especially for a small, private company trying to exist in a very mature market segment. While tech in general is shrinking, layoffs are in the news constantly, and global economies are getting hit hard, we’re still here, releasing new products, and working hard to support everything we’ve already launched.
If and when we decide to add Coreboot to the docket of active projects, we’ll let the Community know, but if you want Framework to continue to exist, and you believe in our mission, we’ll have to continue to ask for your patience. If not having Coreboot is a blocker for you, personally, to join the Framework Family, we do hope that we can earn your business in the future.”
We should also mention that while the Ryzen 7040 Series is exclusively AMD-powered, Framework does make an Intel platform version of the Laptop 13, using 11th, 12th and 13th generation processors.
Oh wow, how weird, the AMD Ryzen 7040 Series version of the laptop only comes with an AMD option. Great point to make my guys. I wonder if the Intel 11th gen option comes in AMD?
Absolutely not. Came not even close to 16GB usage (yet)
But I thought that it would be nice to have, and that the prices wouldn't go lower anytime soon, so I thought I might as well take the 32Gigs
The CAD files needed for making an expansion card are open source so you could make your own if you have the expertise. It's been tried before, but to my knowledge nobody's done it. I could be wrong though.
If the experts at LTT screwed the midplate so that it's a bit deformed, that might cause lack of support and flex in the keyboard. Given their track record I wouldn't be surprised if that's what happened.
Several countries have <Enter> taller, and wider at the top.
My UK keyboard is the same, and I'm probably too old to adapt to a smaller <Enter> and having the | \ @ ~ and # in (what I see as) the wrong places :-)
My issue with the Laptop 16 is more about the design of the computer itself, how it's positioned, and the need it serves—things that are more fundamental and harder to fix.
Design is subjective. I think it's beautiful and extremely functional.
The need it serves is a laptop that doesn't have to be replaced every few years. Saves money in the long term, helps the environment, and is far more future proof than anything else.
Not hard. Framework has been killing it with their previous models.
Once you're spending more than $2,000 on a 5-pound laptop, most people would be better off buying multiple computers—an inexpensive thin-and-light laptop for battery life and portability, plus a good midrange desktop for performance and comfort.
Does this guy live in the real world? This sounds like sarcasm, but it's not.
The bad
Relatively expensive for what you're getting.
On the larger and heavier end of the 15-to-16-inch > laptop spectrum.
GPU module adds a lot of size and weight.
Upgradeability currently more of a hypothetical >future benefit, though Framework does have an >established track record now.
Expensive yes, but you are getting a lot. And you save money in the long-term.
Larger end.. Yeah, it's a 16" laptop....
GPU is optional, and anyone who needs it in a laptop are willing to take that weight penalty.
Upgradability is a hypothetical future benefit? Framework already offers upgrades to their other models. And even a battery swap, which isn't always possible, easy, or budget friendly, is a snap.
This review is so short slighted, and seems to miss the actual point of owning a framework laptop.
The whole conversation about ports misses the not-so-obvious point that the cartridge system saves the motherboard ports from destruction. This is extremely important for long-term use. Ports not only have limited cycle life but get killed by happenstances in life. Standard laptops lose ports over time. That can only be fixed by board replacement. On a Framework, it's $20 and a cartridge reload.
Then there's the cooling... A laptop with adequate cooling for its hardware... What is this this - the 2000s? With that kind of cooling capacity, this machine will last for a very long time.
Ports not only have limited cycle life but get killed by happenstances in life. Standard laptops lose ports over time. That can only be fixed by board replacement. On a Framework, it’s $20 and a cartridge reload.
This is so true! Whether it's the power port, a standard USB port, or your HDMI port, damaging it on a regular laptop can either be costly or impossible to fix without a full mobo replacement.
Looking back at all the laptops I've owned that needed to be replaced because repairs were either non-existent or too expensive, I realize that every single one of them could have been saved if they'd been Framework laptops.
I love my Framework 13, but when it comes time for my wife to replace her current laptop (a 17" Dell that's been a workhorse for over a decade), I'll be getting the Framework 16 and she'll have the 13. I don't think I could ever go with another brand after my experience.
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