If Beehaw chooses to leave the fediverse and defederate everyone, I wish them all the best, but I know I personally will not be joining.
I've had enough of walled gardens and private spaces, I chose the fediverse because Reddit started forcing decisions I didn't like, like which apps I could use or how I interact with the communities I enjoy. The fediverse allows me the choice to choose what communities I want to subscribe to on my own terms, and that isn't something I want to let go of easily.
There are downsides, there is noise, but that's the role of hosting social media. It's inevitable that as a community grows with more people who enjoy it, that there will also be people who want to tear it down. To me, that's just a fact of the internet.
I'll be disappointed, Beehaw is what inspired me to set up my instance and my communities and nurture my tiny instance - but I still believe in the fediverse. Welcoming differing opinions - not shutting them out.
A big general problem I have with the fediverse (as do others I've spoken to) is that it affords not real capacity to foster both private and public spaces with good and convenient means of moving and connecting with people between them. From the lack of truly private DMs, to no private group chats or local only spaces ... the whole idea of private spaces for when people want them seems to be absent from the fediverse creators and it's a significant gap IMO.
In the case of lemmy, I can imagine private communities being rather useful and pleasant. That is, communities visible only by people who are members or who have subscribed, with membership being optionally open or closed to being invite only or requiring approval or something similar. Having both federated and local-only versions of these would also probably be nice.
The useful part would be that you could meet people/accounts in private spaces and then see the same person/account in public too, which should only foster community creation through personal connections and discovery.
Then, whenever people need a quieter and more private space for a particular conversation or topic, they can take discussion out from the public and shield it in private. While you might argue that this would stifle discussion (and I see your point), I think there's a relatively natural equilibrium between our needs for public and noisy engagement and quiet/safe/private interactions. I think people would naturally move between these spaces as they need.
I'm pretty nostalgic for forums myself but while they are great for smaller communities centered around a specific topic, they were really difficult to navigate when it comes to larger general communities IMHO. Fediverse with its reddit-like structure has an advantage here, and I personally like the idea of AP and multiple smaller communities interacting. We just need better tech and UI.
Globalization is already well underway, our economies are entertwined, our technological advances, our medicine, knowledge, and even entertainment.
There is war, incompatible theologies, racism, hate, and all sorts of stuff that has the appearance of not being "united". As long as humans exist those things will persist. We're not robots, our flaws exist because of the nature of our biology.
I think it's fair from at least this perspective to say we're already united.
I also find quite interesting how introducing the Dual Dialectic turns the usually-depicted 2D moral plane into a... Riemann sphere?
Even then, that geometry seems more fit to deal with representing the frequent compromises between individual and collective. My solarpunk heart is happy to read about this second model.
Neat visualization and quality writing. Thanks for sharing!
How very interesting. I'm not too great at geometry so I had to look that up.
I think that pretty well explains it, yes - though I'd like to emphasise that a synthesis is not a compromise. With a compromise, no one gets what they want, but a synthesis satisfies both :)
Either way - I'm happy you liked it. I also am a fan of the solarpunk movement. And in case you hadn't noticed, "reasoned collaboration" is anarchism, or, more precisely, mutual aid ;)
People keep talking about going to another platform. Personally I think a better idea would be to develop lemmy to deal with these issues. This must be a fediverse wide problem. So some discussion with other admins and the developers is probably the way to go on many of these things. Moreover you work with https://opencollective.com/, can they help. Beyond this, especially CSAM, there must be large funding agencies where one could get a grant to get some real professional programming put into this problem. Perhaps we could raise funds ourselves to help with this too.
So frankly I would like to see Beehaw solve the issues with lemmy, rather then just move to some other platform that will have its own issues. The exception may be if the Beehaw people think that being a safe space creates too big a target that you have to leave the Threadiverse to be safe. That to me seems like letting the haters win. It is exactly what they want. My vote will always be to solve the threadiverse issues rather then run away.
Just my feeling. There may be more short term practical issues that take precedence and frankly it is all up to you guys where you want to take this project.
The solution is to use an already existing software product that solves this, like CloudFlare’s CSAM Detection. I know people on the fediverse hate big companies, but they’ve solved this problem already numerous times before. They’re the only ones allowed access to CSAM hashes, lemmy devs and platforms will never get access to the hashes (for good reason).
Wait… why is no access to csam hashes a good thing? Wouldn’t it make it easier to detect if hashes were public?! I feel like I’m missing something here…
Giving access to CSAM hashes means anyone wanting to avoid detection simply has to check what they’re about to upload against the db. If it matches then they simply modify the image until it doesn’t. It’s literally guaranteed to make the problem worse, not better.
Hey, I am 23yo and I have left instagram ~5 years ago because it was such a waste of time. After school, I've gotten more cautious in terms of what happens with my data, but even though I was using DuckDuckGo and FF for everything, I was still hooked on YouTube and my phones stock ROM. YT is my absolute favourite Social Media platform to this date. Only a few months ago, I had a good talk with a friend of mine, who is also into privacy. He told me about how awesome LibreTube is, and showed me, the import feature of it. Since the, I only rely on Gmails servers for K9-Mail, and Google maps. (Any suggestions besides OSM?) Since 2020, my entire friend group, and my close relatives all switched to Signal, and I've never been happier with a messenger app. The only thing that bothers me and my privacy friend, is that we still hang out on Discord, but there's no way, we get our friends to migrate to another service, especially because there are no good alternatives with privacy in focus.
Since 8 months, I am running LineageOS with microG on it. When you're a tinkerer, I can absolutely recommend microG, but I understand, that its not for everyone, especially when you rely on GPay.
For a Google Maps replacement, everything is going to work off of the base OSM maps, but OSMand is not a great app imo. Organic Maps is good if you want to be COMPLETELY FOSS, but if you want something with good navigation and real time traffic, Magic Earth is what you want. The app itself isn't FOSS afaik, but it's privacy oriented, has very few (if any?) trackers, and can be used completely offline.
Pretty awful. Work sucks and I had to put my cat down on Friday. She was my best friend. I was okay over the weekend but I am increasingly lonely and heartachey.
I was merrily using Lemmy, and later on Kbin in addition to that, for many months.
But then in recent weeks the culture seemed to change: More aggressive, insulting, and rude posts, even over nothing; some of them first responses to posts, others over nothing particularly political, just pop culture opinions and the like. And way, way more downvotes. And that last one was particularly new to me personally.
I've always been a laughably polite person, even irl, according to folks who know me, and had been the same online unless someone was outrageously offensive and mean (though in recent years simply handled that by a process of mute > report > block, rather than waste energy). But in recent weeks I'd noticed way more downvotes coming my way on innocuous posts, which was a first for me. I'd even told folks who were unsure about joining Lemmy, "Ah, don't worry about the Marxist-Leninist reputation and the bad rap; I've never experienced any tankie stuff on there, and only ever had positive experiences - I mean, look, I've barely ever been downvoted, only ever received kind upvotes for what I've tried to ensure are thoughtful, positive contributions!"
Lately it's turned nasty, and negative. I joined Kbin and most discourse on there was either polluted by the same culture rising on Lemmy, or dominated by people mocking Beehaw for wanting no part of what many agree is a recent influx of bad habits from Reddit folks. This theory is particularly popular on Mastodon, where people pointed out the switch from Twitter to Mastodon was more politically motivated, whereas the Reddit exodus was more about convenience. I thought that was an interesting explanation for these more negative experiences of late.
I'm sorry if this is a long post that doesn't at first seem to address the actual question, haha! I guess I'm just trying to contribute my own personal perspective that is related to the topic - and demonstrates why I've recently arrived at Beehaw, as an online space that appeals to me, in contrast to those other aforementioned places.
I subscribed to Dropout earlier this year after I exhausted the free episodes on their YouTube channel. Definitely a fan of GameChanger and Make Some Noise! I recently started watching Um, Actually as well. One of these days I'll have to get into the DnD side of things; I know I'll like them, it just feels like more of an undertaking to watch, you know?
I'm a cat parent of one from Australia. I came here as a reddit refugee and am appreciating the cultural differences here. Much easier to curate a healthy front page here!
Those big SUV like Ford f150 should be illegal, for real. They are super long and tall, the driver can barely see what's right in front, it's dangerous for everyone not in the car. Cars should have stricter limits on size, if it's bigger, you need a special license.
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