yesman ,

Fascism will exterminate itself. It's an auto-cannibalistic ideology.

To the Nazi mind, society is like the rings on a tree with the "pure" and "deserving" being at the core. The outer most layer will always be the "other" and the "enemy". So as each enemy is defeated, the field narrows until the end where they'd be two Nazis left trying to kill each other.

Viewed in this light, anti-Fascist skull crushing is benevolent.

puchaczyk ,

I don't disagree with you, but I think what you wrote only applies to fascism in a vacuum or a very late stage of fascism where all the outsiders were eliminated. Basicaly, if we're at the point where fascists started devouring themself it's already game over, because everything else is destroyed. And I don't like the sentence "Fascism will exterminate itself" because it implies all we need to do is wait (even though I don't think you mean that). Fascism needs a helping hand to achieve it's end goal (exterminating itself; please, don't ban me mods lol).

Norgur ,
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Well... the gruesome thing is: It will exterminate itself in the same way the plague exterminated itself in Europe. Eventually, all the fascism will lead to a myriad of wars and genocides in which fascism will eventually die. Along billions of people.

Holzkohlen ,

How about we start exterminating it right now to prevent the deaths of billions, at the low low cost of a couple of fascist's lifes?
All in favour?

kittenzrulz123 ,

The cure to transphobia comes in 50 caliber doses

spujb ,

ugh i don’t really like this comment :(

a) that’s a pesticide sprayer, not a gun

b) the cure to violent transphobia for sure is violence.

but the cure to transphobia, in general?

idk. i have loved ones who used to be worse and gradually came around just by living and knowing trans people? what if they got shot 25 years ago?

no hate to you as a commenter bc it seems you are just repeating a common phrase, but i don’t like how this comment moves the narrative so far beyond. idk, i don’t really like this comment but i don’t want to invalidate the anger, fear and genuine need for change that is behind it. i’m sorry if my perspective is ignorant.

exocrinous ,

I dunno, sometimes I wanna do violent things to the kind of people who out trans people's closeted alt accounts.

tux0r ,

Here are the things that get you banned:

  • authoritarian behavior
EdibleFriend ,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

favoring or enforcing strict obedience to authority, especially that of the government, at the expense of personal freedom.

The only thing I can come up with is you're defending people's personal freedom to be fascists?

tux0r ,

Not being shot, at least.

EdibleFriend ,
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If your opposed to calls to violence against those that are trying to take away trans rights that's fine. I'm just curious about calling authoritarianism.

In calling for violence against fascists...who's authority are we upholding?

tux0r ,

Enforcing your preferred kind of politics with guns sounds like a bad idea. I’m German, we did that a few times in our history.

EdibleFriend ,
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Wait... I'm sorry I have to respond again because this really just hit me. Did you really use GERMANY as an example of why you SHOULD NOT stand up to facisim with violence? GERMANY???

How did letting the facisim play out for ya there champ?

tux0r ,

The street fights in 1932 did not do much to prevent fascism, to say the least.

EdibleFriend ,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

Sounds like they should have tried harder.

tux0r ,

Probably.

EdibleFriend ,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

Yet here you are saying if you stand up to fascism with violence you're being authoritative.

tux0r ,

Because my country has seen what happens when political disagreements are fought out in months of street battles.

EdibleFriend ,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

And the world has seen what happens because you gave up on those fights.

DessertStorms ,
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I wouldn't be so proudly proclaiming "I'm German" as if that gives you automatic and universal knowledge, or authority, if you'd like, on, well, anything, if I were you, instead I'd get out of the way, humble myself, and go study some history.

"Only one thing could have stopped our movement – if our adversaries had understood its principle and from the first day smashed with the utmost brutality the nucleus of our new movement." -Adolf Hitler

Norgur ,
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Have tolerant people to be tolerant towards the intolerant?
This question has claimed the coherence of so many philosopher's brains. Poor souls.

anarchrist ,

If only someone had taught them about social contracts, which only conditionally requires us to tolerate people so long as they tolerate us.

thepaperpilot ,

The "paradox of tolerance" has never legitimately stumped anyone. The initial act of intolerance broke the social contract, thus removing their right to tolerance themselves.

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