boredsquirrel

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boredsquirrel ,

Rule 1: dont fall for the fetishisation of the consumer world

boredsquirrel ,

Italians

  • make weird noodles
  • need strange tools to eat them

South east asians

  • use literal sticks that chop
  • make overcomplicated food that just needs to be grabbed
  • breed special rice that sticks

Germans

  • Spoon go brrr
boredsquirrel ,

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boredsquirrel ,

Thanks Meredith for raising your voice over and over again.

Also thanks to Patrick Breuer for the info about the shit that is going on.

boredsquirrel ,

Es ist so traurig zu sehen, aber anscheinend haben Menschen unnormal viel Geld, und werfen es aus dem Fenster als wären SUVs Sneaker...

boredsquirrel ,

Aber man kann stattdessen doch so viel anderes machen... urlaub oder so? Weniger arbeiten?

boredsquirrel ,

No, they base on Ubuntu LTS and that has an outdated and broken version of Plasma.

I only recommend to use Plasma on Fedora Kinoite as I dont know other OSses. But I assume Arch and Opensuse Tumbleweed are also okay.

KDE doesnt do stable releases, they release when it is ready. And distro maintainers would need to backport all the fixes in Plasma 6 to Plasma 5 and to my knowledge nobody does that.

Qt5 is also not supported anymore, so you are running a desktop that had backported fixes to Qt from the KDE team even before Plasma 6 came out.

Plasma 6 is way more robust than Plasma 5. It just works way better. I use it daily, and can really really recommend Fedora Kinoite.

boredsquirrel ,

And Plasma is a stupid name XD

Just call it "KDE apps" and keep the name of the DE as KDE. It just makes sense.

boredsquirrel ,

I second bazzite and add Aurora or just plain Fedora Kinoite.

Vanilla Plasma configs are fine, you may want to remove some things like the floaty floaty stuff and maybe remove the start screen (as it doesnt work and just delays system start).

boredsquirrel ,

I used Kubuntu and KDE Neon in the past. Cannot recommend them really.

KDE Neon maybe as they ship the modernized desktop, but people had tons of issues on the Plasma 6 upgrade, while on Fedora Kinoite literally nothing happened.

boredsquirrel ,

desktop interfaces like cinnamon and plasma run on top of the actual OS

Yes, I would call the rest "base OS" which is also how the things are often called. As the Desktop contains tons of things that "operate" ;)

it's possible to swap them without having to reinstall

Yes, and no.

On Linux Distros everything is in a package. For example a package for Firefox.

Packages can be put into groups, and packages can have dependencies. For example I install Firefox and it will also pull in the language packs.

You could install a desktop by installing the group "KDE Plasma Desktop" or how it is called. Or there may be a package "kde-plasma-meta" (like on Arch) that doesnt contain anything but in its description has the list of packages it "requires" so these will automatically be installed.

The same way you can also uninstall your old desktop.

But the question is: what about configurations, and what does Linux Mint do here?

Linux mint is just Ubuntu, now also Debian, with the Cinnamon Desktop, some Mint-specific apps and a theme and custom settings.

These customizations are the reason why you would install Mint instead of Ubuntu Cinnamon.

(Also of course the fact that people dont know how distros work)

Now Desktop environments have different icons and apps, but may use the same method to define "this is the standard I use".

I.e. If you install KDE Plasma it may mess up your icons on Mint.

Packages have configurations and following the Unix philosophy "everything is a file", these configs are stored in config files.

The default ones are in /etc while your own ones (which confusingly also include tons of stuff you didnt manually change) are in ~/.config so your home directory.

Different users on Linux have different home directories.

So if you just want to test a DE, you should create a different user and only use that DE with that user.

The issue is that these config files are not managed, at all. If you uninstall a package (or many, like the Cinnamon Desktop), the configs will stay there.

So even if you do it cleanly, uninstall the DE, only have a Terminal interface (TTY) left and install the new one, you may have conflicts.

That sucks a lot and I dont know a fix for it. Distros should put all their configs in something like ~/.config/kde (there is a feature request).

This is why installing different desktops is always messy. Poorly.

Atomic Distros like Fedora Kinoite also dont change that.

boredsquirrel ,

Yeah but it is really opinionated, give it a try and it is likely good.

But tbh uBlue may work better out of the box, but they are changing fast. They introduced nix which was broken and then removed and I still have these strange users left.

They had nokmods images which were kinda vanilla, but just discontinued these images and made the main images the replacement (even though these use kmods).

They nuked their image list site so apart from the flagship variants, all the others are hidden. Even though they are based off Fedora so at least the KDE and GNOME ones are just as good to use.

boredsquirrel ,

Use MPV, I can recommend Celluloid

boredsquirrel ,

A GUI in GTK3 I think. Very well packaged as Flatpak too, Wayland native, portal support, uses Pipewire

boredsquirrel ,

No this is not an alternative to GMail XD but cool anyways

boredsquirrel ,

Because

  • gmail has a simple web ui
  • is an integrated service you often accidentally get
  • a service and a client
  • does not need installation

And so much more

boredsquirrel OP ,

They are pretty established which is nice. I think they work together with Novacustom, 3mdeb, maybe Starlabs and Tuxedo on making some Clevo Laptops fully coreboot compatible, upstreaming the specific things.

That is so important, there was kind of an empty space between 2012-14 and today laptops.

My Thinkpad T430 is coreboot compatible, the T440p maybe, but that was it until these Clevo models came.

I still have to coreboot my old Thinkpad and it is for sure pretty cool and modular hardware, but still very old.

boredsquirrel ,

I am thinking about Fedora IOT or uBlue Core. A lot of stuff needs Docker, even though I think SELinux and secure packages make more sense.

Also keeping an eye on CentOS bootc, which is way more stable but continuously integrated fixes, atomic updates, reversible...

boredsquirrel ,

I literally once rented a VPS, installed Debian 12, configured automatic updates, installed tor, set the max limit to the VPS limit, enabled the tor relay server.

And now I am unable to login and that thing is just running lol. For the good of the Tor network?!

boredsquirrel ,

Yeah I dont get coreOS too, tried to install it in a VM.

I mean this ignition might be super cool, but why not have a fallback preconfigured wheel account?

Just changing the password would be so easy and lock out everyone else on that session.

Or just change the password, restart sshd and thats it.

boredsquirrel ,

Also a Feature comparison between IoT and coreOS would be very much needed, I have no idea what the difference is, apart from the installation

boredsquirrel ,

Yes you can do that. Keep an eye on blocking mode as that may be unavailable

Why openSUSE?

First, let me be clear up front that I'm not promoting the idea that there should be one "universal" Linux distro. With all the various distros out there for consumers, there's lots of discussion about Arch, Debian, and Fedora (and their various descendant projects), but I rarely see much talk about openSUSE....

boredsquirrel ,

I have the same result in my current survey. Nobody openly talks about OpenSUSE a lot.

That doesnt mean they dont have many users, but they are not really active in general online forums.

https://slrpnk.net/pictrs/image/b6990d2e-66ed-41f8-bddf-6d8a0912b8c3.webp

There was also not a lot of people moving from it to something else.

OpenSUSE to SEL is similar to Fedora to RHEL. I dont know why Fedora gets more focus.

This is often random, and I think OpenSUSE Tumbleweed may be better than traditional Fedora, as they use BTRFS snapshots automatically.

Meanwhile, Fedora Atomic Desktops are WORLDS better than their Kalpa and Aeon, and you can also see that by their forks /variants.

OpenSUSE has Aeon and the barely maintained Kalpa, Fedora has tons of variants and way more inofficial ones. Especially uBlue made cool user accessible tooling and they are good at shipping tailored distros like Bazzite or Bluefin/Aurora.

boredsquirrel ,

I dont like that Yast competes with the KDE Settings, but having everything in a GUI is key and distros should fork it.

boredsquirrel ,

and broken btrfs systems don't stay broken for longer than it takes to reboot

Not true. Fedora and others use BTRFS too and just dont deal with snapshots at all.

I dont care about traditional Fedora but that is pretty bad. TW is way better here.

boredsquirrel ,

I think there is. KDE settings deal with Bluetooth, devices etc. Discover deals with repos and more.

boredsquirrel ,

Yes traditional Fedora is useless in that regard. Their offline updates also dont really work reliably.

Rpm-ostree ("Fedora Atomic Desktops") Fedora meanwhile is really really nice.

boredsquirrel ,

OpenSUSE people are awesome at gatekeeping.

Just jump into the Aeon or microOS Matrix room and ask how to add a repo or install an app as RPM.

boredsquirrel ,

I use it with Fedora Atomic KDE, rpm-ostree is not meant for that and a pain to use so I remove the package.

The Flatpak integration doesnt use PackageKit and works well, but it doesnt display the data nicely and is too slow. GNOME software is way better for Flatpaks, COSMIC Apps is way faster.

It is useful for fwupd but at the same time a bit bulky for that.

It is also a frontend for all the KDE Extensions and works very well here.

boredsquirrel OP ,

Thanks!

boredsquirrel OP ,

Over 700 ;D

boredsquirrel OP ,

Thanks. It is hard to do an objective survey and for sure I asked some things that I am interested in.

And that doesnt mean that some questions are not tricks ;D like people use Android but no immutable OS?

I will do an evaluation some time soon but votes are still coming in

boredsquirrel OP ,

770+ so absolutely!

boredsquirrel OP ,

This will get a new post to be more visible

boredsquirrel OP ,

Thanks, I will read your reply.

it would be much harder to single out individuals.

It is all anonymous, I dont get any individually sent data. Which is pretty problematic as it would be interesting to combine certain types of people, traits, behaviors etc.

For example "people using Ubuntu back then and staying with it tend to use X11" or whatever.

This question should also probably be in its own survey.

Yes probably, multiple smaller ones make way more sense.

This also applies to disabilities or any trait that could put them be used against them.

As the ratio is so extreme, I disagree that focussing on just non-male people is wrong.

It is a scope though, and you cannot make a fair and representative survey.

But I agree that other disabilities could have been added.

You are welcome to join, I and maybe a few more people plan on doing more, smaller surveys in the future.

have a look at the surveys by the Linux Experiment.

Yes but I didnt find it that interesting. We can argue about discrimination, but in an anonymous survey it is not problematic to ask for "sensitive" info and tons of people gave their answer there.

These just interested me, and they are more personal than Nicks for sure.

Lastly, you should offer a other button with a custom response.

Yeah for sure. I want to make a followup especially on the "other" boxes that got tons of checks.

But CryptPad seems to not have that feature.

As a test of this feature I think it is interesting. I will try Limesurvey and Nextcloud forms the next time.

boredsquirrel OP ,

I experimented with the platform.

The "anonymous" feature means I cannot do a lot of things one would normally do. For example I have no idea "users that use ubuntu and stayed with Ubuntu will likely dont care about xyz". Because there is no correlation.

Having questions depend on the previous answers makes it possible to filter out groups of people to get more interesting data.

And for sure the questions are biased, try to do an unbiased survey that is still interesting or funny. But I tried my best.

boredsquirrel OP ,

I am not sure haha, I think versioned means there is a certain amount of stability but closer to upstream, while stable is like "I run Kernel 5.14 and do my patches myself".

It is the same but with a slight difference in how extreme it is.

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