Scolding0513

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Is it worth waiting for WhatsApp interoperability anymore ? Is it ever coming ?

I really need to get in contact with some people on WB and have some groups to join and have been waiting for interoperability to get going so I don't have to use zuck's app . But the said date march has long passed and I can't find shit on it or why it didn't happen anywhere . I have yesterday downloaded the apk from WB's...

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wondering if you could do this in an Android VM

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please dont say privacy focused then drop a google play link 😂

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The concept behind Session is nice, but the implementation is poor. im gonna give a full review here for future generations and their posterity and all that, since I have a lot of experience with it.

First if all, their org is based in Australia, one of the worst countries on earth for privacy. They have openly admitted that the government there can secretly force them to ship backdoored binaries and packages. Huge red flag.

Session runs on the oxen network, an onion relay that runs on crypto stakes instead of straight up volunteering. however, a node requires 15000 OXEN tokens to run, which currently is about 2500USD. in the past it was much more expensive. so the barrier of entry is high. you can say that it makes it more secure or less sure. i think they should lower it now that sybil attacks are much less likely, with most of the tokens locked up in nodes.

The oxen network is SLOW. I mean really slow. For conparison, try running both SimpleX over TOR, and Session, side by side, for a few days, you will notice a huge difference. Trying to message someone in Session is a crapshoot. you will either wait 1 second or 10 seconds for message delivery, sometimes more. I've experienced message delivery times of up to two minutes. Face paced messaging is not a thing.

the oxen network can stored messages for up to two weeks, and this is nice for that centralized app experience while being a decentralized app, when the sync works correctly. but also it may be uncomfortable for some people to keep them stored on-chain.

User experience is ABYSMAL in the long term. Device sync, message deletion, file transfer, just to name a few things that are buggy as hell, confusing, or plain dont work half the time. im not gonna go into it, let's just say that it can get sucky in the long term, weird stuff happens. messages may not be truly deleted either. And of course, we have the slow message delivery, among other little stupid bugs. it's definitely not a "just werks" app.

The UX is made worse by the fact that their apps are just poorly maintained forks of Signal. the phone app is okay I guess. the desktop app is worse. The desktop signal app was already not that great, just thrown-together Electron garbage. but Session didnt even bother to make their own electron app. And electron is extremely insecure by the way. and slow. not what you want for secure messaging. also the electron version hasnt been updated in a while, so there are many zero days in both signal and session apps. signal and session both screwed up on this whole thing.

Also somehow even though Signal accomplished it themselves, Session couldn't seem to accomplish Perfect Forward Secrecy while also keeping multi-device sync. Generally everything about the Session team screams "we aren't that smart"

Session has two notification settings, one is for google cloud messaging which does work with MicroG too, the other spins the app up once in a while and checks for messages. both of these have been unreliable for me in different instances though, especially in work profiles. but in main profile with microG it's actually 90%+ reliable to be honest.

Session has some good points. There are no signups obviously. The Session ID / User Id model is easy for newbies to understand. easier to share than a long af SimpleX link. even if buggy sometimes, you can easily link your ID with other devices and message from them, which is something that is not easy with SimpleX currently. it also provides you onion routing out of the box without having to run Orbot in the background which takes up a decent amount of battery power.

Recently-ish, Session/Oxen team announced that they are going to make a network overhaul at some point. Yet despite having built nothing at all yet, they have already minted an erc20 token and begun presales and all the usual crypto token bullcrap that comes with the standard scammy overtones of a lot of crypto projects and random eth tokens. It's pretty sad.

Overall, session is decent out of the box for a quick need but not for long term stable UX.

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this

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yes, this is why I love Brave search! the only privacy search engine with their own indexer.

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money laundering is a big bad no-no word that THEY have stigmatized (conditional brainwashing) in order to get every day people to SUPPORT their regime of THEFT and CONTROL.

"You are trying to keep your money to yourself and stop us from seeing it so that we can't steal some of it and punish you for using it how you like??? You're a MONEY LAUNDERER. Money laundering Money laundering Money laundering"

When you control money, you control minds, livelihoods, and monopolize fear itself.

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the two you suggested though are US based though. they'd also have to answer to court orders right?

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If e2ee is what is really keeping you from catching child abusers, then your department is INCOMPETENT and LAZY. Sorry, but all this does is tell me that you are a piece of shit human being(s) that thinks they have to have god-like controls to do your job of jailing actual criminals. or else it's just an excuse to control everything (it is), in which case you are just evil

Fuck these nosey oligarchs

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both have worse UX than Signal. pretty much all except Signal are lacking on this front. OSS developers are allergic to a smooth UX in general

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Cool, another one of those people that equates privacy with crime. just what we need

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the fucking fedora, the communist style questioning, it's like a 4chan meme but it wrote itself

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You will allow the Man-In-The-Middle attack and you will be happy

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are you the developer? if so I have a suggestion

Please add a paste button. There is is seemingly no OSS keyboard that does this. I am so tired of long pressing and then pasting and then sometimes it highlights a word instead, so tiresome

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which they didnt even link to by the way, not that I saw anyway

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all of this

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I remember those too haha, some were intentionally made to be a lot larger so you could put multiple ads on them

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this is a wrong take for a few reasons, if we're talking about trust.

Also, Signal literally was taking money from the CIA for a decade and also is based in the US anyway, and no one hardly said a word 🤣🤣 "Privacy" activists are a joke lmao. Also signal made a crypto coin and took away features like SMS, but of course they get a free pass for that too. Makes you wonder.

  1. SimpleX is fully open source, verifiable, and audited. If there are changes that are bad, the community will talk about them, and at worst it can be forked

  2. SimpleX has made it clear that they dont want you to trust them. It's decentralised and anyone can run their own relay, and the servers are designed prevent correlation. They also make it very easy to use TOR and multiple circuits. This is contrary to the inferior Signal model where you just have to trust that the centralized Signal org isnt leaking your phone and IP to the feds.

moving towards a decentralised, open, and trustless world is better for everyone. In this kind of system, I really dont give a damn where they are getting their money from, as long as they arent putting crap in the software, and if they do, we will all know about it. But so far they have shown that they are committed to extreme security and privacy, and they obviously arent trying to appeal to normies, so i doubt they would ever even try to put VC-pushed garbage in.

If you want a good app, you will need funding from somewhere. Look at apps like Session that arent funded well. They suck. So I'd rather SimpleX be funded by a VC instead of by the feds like Signal, as long as everything stays open, free, trustless, and decentralised

Time to get downvoted! See you guys at -50 😁

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Signal was funded by the CIA for a decade

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There is a desktop app but linking is not as easy and featured as Session, which is really easy to use on multiple devices, but then you lose the superior security of SimpleX

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yeah it's like TOR. it's public knowledge that it was both made and is funded by the US Gov, but we all see it as the standard of anonymity online because everything is open, trustless, and decentralized.

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you completely ignored what i said, as I specifically argued that simplex is made to be used without trust. so dont talk about me trusting people lol.

Also I agree with you on Signal, was just throwing it out there for others, not necessarily for you.

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I recommend to study how TOR works

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originally it was. but it was given to the larger community as an open project, because they realized that without public use, it would be useless.

There is endless discussion on whether tor software is backdoored or not, but I severely doubt this with all the eyes on the open source code

There is also debate on how many nodes are owned by the feds, but the largest estimates at the peak were about 20%ish iirc. i doubt it's a significant number enough to worry about, from what I've seen.

tldr I'd recommend to look up all the opinions online yourself.

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This

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We need to start a movement to show people different ways to vandalize them without being caught, and print stickers to stick on them to show the reasoning behind the vandalosm

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A gentleman and a scholar

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lol!

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Any more info would be appreciated

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i love Proton but they kinda going after low hanging fruit on this one

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Can someone post that one meme please

"If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear"
"Oh ok, I'll just leak these secret government files online then!"
terror

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The same oligarchs who lash out at you for wanting privacy are the same who are doing dark evil deeds that they absolutely want to keep private and a secret.

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WHY CANT I JUST GOON TO PICS OF KRYSTAL FROM STAR FOX IN PEACE

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your first mistake was to use what I presume was a stock android phone with the official YouTube app. Switch to Lineage/Divest/Graphene and NewPipe

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ah, browser fingerprinting and IP address correlation then. Use Mullvad Browser or Cromite and a VPN. But now they have already correlated your two accounts so you'd have to make a new YouTube account or amazon account

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check out Nym, they are doing this kind of network

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you dont really. you share your connection with a bunch of other people, and if you then add multi hop that makes it exponentially harder for the VPN's ISPs to somehow target you. Learn how VPNs work bro

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correct, and, I trust that provider, i.e. Mullvad, 100x more than I trust my ISP. Especially after Mullvad's run-in with the police last year. Recommend to look it up. Also OVPN's court battle, and Proton's court battles too. A good provider will prove themselves to you.

My point is that I disagree that a VPN provider is somehow intrinsically on the same trust level as an ISP. It really depends on the provider, but all in all VPN providers tend to be much more trustworthy with your traffic.

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I've done a huge amount of research on those guys and I think they are collabing with the feds by proxy. it is indeed a circus.

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This was probably orchestrated on purpose as part of a long term operation

The goal would be to make things like this happen over and over and over again so as to eventually get people outraged enough so that they can push for everyone to get on board with CBDCs, forced nerulink implants, digital identity like the EU, and basically anything that helps the government make you a total slave to surveillance and tracking

It's another one of those, "it's for your safety!!!!!!" deals

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People must learn to open their eyes. We already know that the government, big tech, and corporations lie all the time. Yet somehow, when I suggest that they are lying, I get told off?? Give me a break.

I am not assuming, more or less just strongly suggesting. There is a major benefit to the larger agenda here.

Anyway I'm not frustrated at you, just majority of so-called privacy people who can't see a bigger picture. Same kind of people that would have torn you to shreds for suggesting some things pre-2014 that Snowden later revealed to be true. Somehow we forgotten about him.

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how are you getting a pixel for 100 dollars lmao

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yeah, even a used one, seems like it wouldn't be so little cost. that's cool if you're able to nab one though

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yeah I noticed this too. corporations have an obsession with even useless data

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look up what a database is bro

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go read their terms and conditions then. you will learn a lot.

Often we say infinite growth (capitalism) is not sustainable and reasonable. Can we also say infinite progressivism is also not sustainable and reasonable?

This question is social/political, and meant to trigger a nice debate on the negatives of imbalanced infinite progressivism we seem to be heading in social and technological spheres, ignoring science, practicality and reason....

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progressivism happens because society progresses. talking about cult like members and how being traditional past your 30s is somehow more responsible and mature is highly disingenuous. might wanna think about that

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