Krudler ,

Idiots like my sister.

She once sternly advised me "I won't have any chemicals in my home"

MrFunnyMoustache ,

Wait until she hears about dihydrogen monoxide...

Krudler ,

I asked her how she felt about nitrogen on her lawn

She exploded. I WON'T ALLOW IT!

I said what do you think most of the breathable atmosphere is made of and what do you think comes down with rain that makes your grass grow?

You know how well that went.

MrFunnyMoustache ,

I often wonder what can be done to help these people escape the cycle of ignorance, but so far I have no clue.

ArugulaZ ,
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Anti-vaxxers, of course. Everyone thank the anti-vaxxers with both middle fingers!

sanguinepar ,
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Agreed, but not just them, it is also about making sure vaccines are properly available and accessible, the clinics are open when parents are able to get to them (or out of work hours) and that their availability is properly advertised and promoted. It needs to be made as easy as possible for people to get their kids jabbed with as little impact on their daily schedules as possible.

FriendBesto ,

How? There has always been X number of people who do not take vaccines, the largest group are the Amish and other smaller religious groups? The crazies you speak of are a tiny minority.

If there is more measles but the same group of people are taking the shots then measles would not increase by much. You think that people who took shots before are not taking them anymore?

explodicle ,

What makes you think it hasn't increased?

dRLY ,
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The Amish and groups like them aren't themselves the main issue. As they by default tend to stay amongst themselves in their communities. Which limits a lot of exposure both with stuff going in and coming out of their living spaces/communities. The main cause of this shit are the folks that are either too "woo woo" and think that basically all diseases are actually "curable" with shit like crystals and the energies of "mother Gaia." Along with their more conservative counterparts in the "God, Jesus, and prayer" side of things. In addition to the overlapping groups that think that all vaccinations are "government mind and body control" shit.

So if more and more people are joining the anti-science side of things and refuse to see how we literally haven't had to deal with these terrible diseases because of vaccinations. Then it means said diseases are going to start actually spreading more and more again. Kind of like how people that didn't live through hard times that lead to aid programs and protections tend to see those things as "not needed at all."

Of course it doesn't help matters that the sins of the past have made very real reasons for different minority groups to absolutely distrust vaccines due to shit like the Tuskegee and Nazi "experiments." Once trust is lost and very real shit like those things are proven, then I am not sure at what point it is even possible to start over. Unfortunately these groups get lumped in with the medical versions of flat earthers that are completely anti-science and proud of it.

And that is all just the human sides of things. The actual diseases themselves evolve the more they are able to spread. Which literally means that shit we had dealt with dramatically now has more and more places and people to spread into. Which at a point also means that people that did take the shots and were good to go are now being punished by these new versions that are taking hold in the anti-science fucks (that also tend to be the same fucks that won't wear fucking masks and try to avoid close contact while fucking sick). If the anti-science assholes that are refusing to take shots over both real and really dumb reasons (muh freedumbs). Then they shouldn't removed about taking basic fucking actions like wearing masks and not claiming that they are somehow the same as the stars and triangles the Nazis forced people to wear. They are selfish and anti-respecting the lives of everyone around them. They just want everyone to yield to their main character-ass whining about "liberty" while oppressing everyone.

TheMongoose ,

Andrew Fucking Wakefield can never suffer enough for everything he’s responsible for

Shdwdrgn ,

Well SOME of us are prepared, since we had parents who actually cared about our lives rather than virtue-signalling to their Facebook groups.

flooppoolf ,

That’s not how herd immunity works, once the population reaches a certain threshold it all goes to the toilet because not everybody can sustain the same immunity over long periods of time.

Herd immunity makes it hard for the virus to jump from person to person because the statistics dictate how likely it is for transmission to occur.

When a large amount of people are immunized it is less likely for it to jump from a newly vaccinated child to an adult that got vaccinated years ago because of the buffers that might exist in between those people.

When a less than useful amount of people are vaccinated it is more likely that it will just jump to all of the adults with weaker immunity.

So even if you’re immunized, sometimes that immunity goes away quickly as it did with the COVID vaccine.

Humanity is reaping what they sowed.

spez_ ,

We need life imprisonment for those who can be vaccinated, but refuse

lurker8008 ,

Humanity is reaping what a handful of idiots sowed

FTFY

floofloof ,

The problem is that the voluntarily unvaccinated give the disease the chance to circulate. Once in circulation it will harm some people who are vaccinated and some people who can't be vaccinated. Vaccination is in part an altruistic act that helps protect others. But antivaxers don't seem to understand this notion of doing something to protect other people.

Skyline969 ,
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If only there was a way to prevent a person from getting measles. Hell, mumps and rubella too!

SuiXi3D ,
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But the shot gave me 5g or whatever, they’ll know where I am all times!

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Neato ,
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More likely is that no one in the government gives 2 shits what some MAGA retiree is doing. Those types are desperate to pretend they are relevant.

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