qnick ,
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Genuine question to all Palestinian sympathizers: don't you see how you encourage Hamas to bring even more kids to the active war zone with your comments and protests?

fishos ,
@fishos@lemmy.world avatar

It's more like "hey, that neighborhood full of families and shopkeepers has some gang members in it. Let's bomb it all." Hamas isn't "bringing in kids". They're resistance fighters who live in the same area, which is roughly the size of Los Angeles. And in the minds of Hamas, they're fighting for those children to have a right to that land in their future. To have a right to grow up free and unoppressed. Those children aren't "shields" and they weren't brought there. They were born there and are now being indiscriminately bombed as an excuse to make Hamas look bad. Where's Mossad? Where's Israeli special forces? Israel likes to talk a big game about their abilities, but in this conflict, "rain missiles from the sky and blame the victims for being in the way" seems to be their only tool.

You realize Israel even bombed evacuation routes, right? Told people "it's safe to leave this way" and then bombed the caravans leaving. You can't even leave without getting bombed, and you think they're just importing children in?

What are you smoking? I want some.

qnick ,
@qnick@lemmy.world avatar

In this video by channel 4, they briefly mentioned the story of a wounded boy, who got the permission to get through the Rafah crossing. His Palestinian father didn't let him go, because the father himself didn't get such permission.
This is how they care about their children.

medgremlin ,

If the child did go through alone, what are the chances that family would ever see him again? Who would care for the child and advocate for his best interests away from his family? All communications have been shut down by Israel. There is no way for the family to know what happens to their children if they are taken away.

qnick ,
@qnick@lemmy.world avatar

To me, as a father of two, there's no moral dilemma here. You get your kids out of the hell no matter what.

But I guess when you have 14 kids, the priorities are a bit different.

medgremlin ,

Would you get your kid out if you didn't know whether or not they would be adequately cared for? Would you get them out if it meant that you will probably never see them again and that they will be taken to another country speaking another language with no one there to look after them and no plan for how to take care of them after the medical treatment is done?

This would most likely be a permanent separation and the child would effectively, or maybe even literally become an orphan in a foreign country with nothing. Not their vital documents, not their family, not anything that would give them any hope of ever getting home. Getting your kid out in this situation means gambling your child's life on the good will of strangers and most likely losing them for good.

It is not unreasonable to demand to go with his child. Especially since he needs medical care as well.

qnick ,
@qnick@lemmy.world avatar

Still better than staying in Gaza

fishos ,
@fishos@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, let's victim blame the person being bombed and not the person launching the bombs. Hmmm. So all the school shootings in the US are just the children not running fast enough? I guess that's one way to fight childhood obesity, but damn....

Sanctus ,
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At risk? They are actively experiencing a genocide

fishos ,
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I think they mean "at risk of completing full genocide", sadly enough.

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