theodewere ,
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seems like the only way to deal with it.. make it equivalent to sexual assault..

FlyingSquid Mod ,
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"Without consent." I'm very curious who would consent to having deepfake porn made of themselves.

cygnus ,
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I have a hard time accepting this as a crime. What if the illustration hand-drawn, or clothed but still sexual in character? Is caricature illegal, by this standard?

andrewta ,

There’s a big difference between a deep fake and a caricature.

BolexForSoup ,
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I understand this won’t be a popular statement, but to me, it falls under I know it when I see it.

I don’t know the exact location of the line, but there is no artistic, scientific, or any other kind of merit to someone making deepfake nudes of a 14 year old and circulating them around school. The victim comes first in these cases. I don’t want to debate what is or isn’t child porn. I think we all agree this girl was a victim and this should never have happened.

To get away from the minors-argument: it’s just like how I can’t go around shooting photos of random people when they’re naked and then circulate them. Hell you can barely do that even if they aren’t naked except in particular circumstances where consent to be photographed is taken as a given.

Non-consensual deepfakes should, by and large, not be allowed.

cygnus ,
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I can’t go around shooting photos of random people when they’re naked and then circulate them.

That's wildly different. It's like saying that writing about murder and actually committing it are the same thing.

BolexForSoup ,
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Deepfakes are already so good in many cases that the differences are basically trivial. The gulf between writing and committing murder is far wider. Not a great parallel IMO.

How would you feel if someone spread nude deepfakes of you? Your partner? Your child? Are you telling me that’s just like writing about doing something and not closer to committing the act and you’d just shrug and move on with your life?

Gigan ,
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If they're going to go this way, I don't think it should be limited to just porn. There are plenty of ways you could ruin someone's life without a deepfake being sexually explicit.

Deestan ,

There already are a lot of laws covering that. This one is to cover an additional angle where people create deepfake without provably publishing it, the intent being that showing it to friends and verbally threatening to "leak" them should be easier to prosecute.

If you create a deepfake and share it, you're slapped with two crimes.

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