kurcatovium ,
@kurcatovium@lemm.ee avatar

I'm not American and have only brief idea of how US elections work, but.. damn this gets more and more ridiculous every day. I'm not saying Trump is better or anything, that dude is batshit crazy egomaniac, but... But... you're saying there are no other options like if there was only one available candidate from the whole blue party? Or is it impossible (or too late) to switch candidate now? I'm confused.

return2ozma OP ,
@return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar

Biden can resign and hand it over to anyone else. He's decided he wants to stay in the race even though he clearly has some neurological issues.

kurcatovium ,
@kurcatovium@lemm.ee avatar

Is it him who has to hand it over? Or is it possible for blue party to say "Hey, Joe, enough is enough" and substitute him for "health reasons"?

return2ozma OP ,
@return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar

Both can happen. The party loyalists didn't want to go against him for their own political careers. The GOP and Dems will push you out if you go against them.

Krauerking ,

People don't want to think and want to just assume everything will be fine. They have the right idea and everyone else is wrong and as soon as they can get everyone else to agree to that it will all be better.

This is why the Democrats will lose. If he's got a lab coat on he must be a doctor and must be competent because he is a doctor. Getting a new one would just be too complicated.

This is why it's so easy to lie to people. They want to be lied to. They will even do it to themselves.

Biden is not a good choice but it's an easy one that requires no internal pushback just have to fix everyone else's thoughts on him.

Yeah good luck.

sartalon ,

These non-voter apologists are just Trumpers in donkey clothing.

Notice they always have to neg him in a vacuum, because once he is juxtaposed to Trump, he looks like the best parts of Thomas Jefferson and John Adams put together.

They will say or do anything to suppress the vote.

Great, Biden's not perfect, he is also a million fucking percent better than the alternative.

AFC1886VCC ,

The Democrats are digging their own electoral grave. It's okay to preach about voting Biden on Lemmy, but it won't count for anything when masses of real world voters decline to vote for him on account of the constant self-harming of the dems.

A half decent candidate would tank Trump.

spacesatan ,

libs in this thread: "It's completely fine that best reason to vote for our candidate is that they aren't the other guy, this strategy definitely worked in 2016". At this point I'm at least glad the liberal genocide apologists won't be celebrating in november, gotta find a bright side somewhere.

silasmariner ,

Ah yes, that old chestnut. 'Yeah sure this other guy would probably genocide harder but he didn't (because he wasn't president) so we should suppress the vote for the old genocide dude to help the other old genocide dude who also hates that autonomy (bodily, electoral, legal) exists at all'. Very sensible, enlightened centrist, let's gooooo.

spacesatan ,

"We should teach the democrats that they can full throatedly support a genocide while abandoning the left of the party and still win reelection" Great long term strategy there chief.

And I would think biden being a horrible candidate is doing a hell of a lot more to suppress the vote than posts on lemmy.

return2ozma OP ,
@return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar
crusa187 ,

So much “but trump worst!!” in this thread, oof. Vote for the Biden administration if that’s your only choice, fine. But stop pretending that Biden himself is voteworthy - he’s not, and is hardly capable of functioning normally for 6 hours out of the day at this point. Anyone paying attention for the past year who is engaging in honest good faith, should be able to attest to that.

It would be much better for Biden to step down while there’s still time, if you’re really so terrified of Trump and want to ensure a Republican defeat come November. Those who are pushing for Biden himself to stay in are the real threat to democracy.

Come on Dems, how many times do you have to be taught the lesson of Feinstein and RBG?! For that matter, why are you so insistent on politicians literally working into the grave? It’s a grotesque level of elder abuse, what’s being done to Biden right now. You all should be ashamed.

awwwyissss ,

Fantastic! More propaganda from return2ozma. What a typical day on lemmy.

the_post_of_tom_joad ,

i wonder if you'll ever see the similarities between trump's camp and biden's. yaknow how he has folks who love him no matter what he does and says, right?

its ok to not like biden or be unhappy if he says shit you dont like. its also a good thing for democracy. If you were only exposed to the pro biden propaganda every day you wouldn't even know he did or said these things. If everyone thought exactly as you do there would be no nuance.

Ozma's hard-on for biden memes doesn't mean theyre a psyop, thats the dumbest fucking idea ive ever heard someone say with a serious face on lemmy. like embarrassingly stupid.

And embarrasingly useless. I've seein ozma around and no matter how many times you say he's a propagandist he will not stop. You and your ilk will never stop whinging about people who say things that attack your fragile world-view.

Not that you and your friviolous friends i see crowding ozmas posts will ever engage in self-reflection.

Dkarma ,

The idea that trumps cult is anything comparable to Biden supporters is absolutely the most insane shit take.

You can't be serious.

the_post_of_tom_joad ,

Deadly serious. Would you like to go into it more with me to see what i mean, or is this comment a statement of your final thought on the matter?

EDIT: I am gonna take a wild swing and guess you're a perfect example of who i'm talking about.

Krauerking ,

Man you are such a psyop.
Running around telling everyone that the only option is to run the poorly polling candidate.

That his loss is "possible but oh well, only one option".
Man Russia is taking a weird strategy to get their pick in these days.

masterspace ,

Bruh, you're talking about supporting project 2025 and literal fascism.

Shut the fuck up.

Jesus fucking Christ it's not complicated.

"Wah wah Biden is tired, let's elect Hitler". Fucking dumbasses.

awwwyissss ,

Woah that's really cool.

return2ozma OP ,
@return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar

Their fear of Trump clouds their critical thinking skills.

Saledovil ,

Like, vote Biden, but also encourage the Democrats to put up somebody who has more going for them than "I'm not Trump". And if they actually do, vote for the new Democrat candidate instead. And while we're fantasizing, everybody should get free ice cream.

AVincentInSpace ,

If my choice was between that and the doctor who said "I've got this handgun, it's the best handgun, nobody kills more patients than me"...

JimSamtanko ,

Gotta love all these anti-Biden straw man posts where we overlook the reality of a thing and substitute in some random bullshit that makes our point for us.

It’s so fun to suspend reality in order to manufacture outrage for others.

Zeppo ,
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I didn’t even have to look to know who posted this, too. It’s like a fulltime job.

return2ozma OP ,
@return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar

You realize it takes literally 30 seconds to screenshot a tweet and post it here, right?

irreticent ,
@irreticent@lemmy.world avatar

So, you're only being paid part-time?

sp3tr4l ,

How about if you asked him if he felt up to it and he said 'Don't worry, I'm going to do the goodest job I can!"

Like Ralph Wiggum pretending to be Dr. Nick, jesus christ our country is fucked.

hperrin ,

So let’s go with the convicted felon doctor who only saves the patients who donate millions of dollars to him. The hospital fired him but he refused to leave his office.

Edit: also he’s 78 and talks about Hannibal Lecter a lot.

RegalPotoo ,
@RegalPotoo@lemmy.world avatar

Well the alternative is a convicted rapist who wants to harvest your organs....

BmeBenji ,

Well if the options were an aging doctor or a raving fucking lunatic who was about to gut me with a steak knife call me crazy but I’d take the the fucking doctor every motherfucking time

givesomefucks ,

Well if the options were an aging doctor or a raving fucking lunatic

Nope.

Hospital is literally full of doctors, it's just yours refuses to acknowledge anyone else could do this very basic surgery.

glimse ,

I wonder if OP will continue posting after the election or if he'll stop when the funding dries up

return2ozma OP ,
@return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar

I'll still be here. I usually just do this during my daily peloton ride or at work when I'm bored. It's easy.

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