John Mark Dougan, former marine and police officer, now living in Russia to evade criminal charges ( sh.itjust.works )

Dougan, a former Marine and police officer, fled his home in Florida in 2016 to evade criminal charges related to a massive doxxing campaign he was accused of launching against public officials and was given asylum by the Russian government. Most recently, Dougan has posed as a journalist in Ukraine’s Donbas region, testifying at Russian public hearings and making frequent appearances on Russian state TV.

mhague ,

Maybe he and Snowden can brainstorm ideas on how best to pretend to have strong moral convictions backing your actions while simultaneously being a mouthpiece for Putin. It can't be easy to pretend to be a person willing to risk it all, get to Russia, and suddenly fall in line.

snooggums ,
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Snowden's actions were based on a positive ethical foundation and is accused of putting people in danger, although I don't remember those accusations being substantiated.

This guy fled because he was actively and intentionally harming people for malicious purposes. He continues to be malicious.

They are not comparable.

mhague ,

Pick one:

a) Snowden haphazardly leaked our documents because he can't abide mass surveillance. He had to do it and risk everything because of his moral convictions.

b) Snowden repeats Putin's propaganda because his safety is more important than doing the right thing. He can abide things like the invasion of Ukraine or interference in American politics in favor of practical concerns.

(You know it's possible for Snowden to have done something good while also being a shithead, right? I'm saying these shitheads can keep each other company.)

snooggums ,
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They are both true, and if you look at a calendar you will see that there was significant amount of time and changing circumstances between 1 and 2.

mhague ,

So just to be clear, nobody is denying Snowden is a Kremlin mouthpiece. It's just a faux pas to imply Snowden is not a virtuous person? Or is it mean to group Snowden, a Russian stooge, with other Russian stooges, because of his past?

Mango ,

Oh look, it's the propaganda guy!

mhague ,

Russia bad, surveillance bad, this has been your daily propaganda leaflet ~~

pearsaltchocolatebar ,

He's not just living in Russia, he's actively working directly for the Russian disinformation machine.

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