itsgroundhogdayagain ,

Bring back the dude who married his first cousin!

SamsonSeinfelder ,

Rudy Giuliani?

Binthinkin , (edited )

That’s not enough. We want investigations that bring consequences.

Edit: the people who are commenting below about how “we have no control” etc etc, I just want to say, “Shut the fuck up.” Nobody wants you around anymore. Just because YOU have been a weak POS your entire life spouting off weak, sad bullshit trying to divert REAL change doesn’t mean that the rest of the country is like you. Go back to your holes because I promise if you don’t and you keep acting up, we will put you there in finality. The public isn’t stupid, and they aren’t weak. It’s scumbags within the wealth class that are protected by losers like you all naysayers and class traitors who try to make it seem that way. Trump and Biden is a symptom of class traitors turning on the public, not a show of force by the elites. Best recognize.

Nudding ,

What we want, and what happens in reality, have absolutely no connection. Money is what makes the world go around. Money is the only thing that matters to our society.

some_designer_dude ,

No, it’s the only thing that matters to our current leadership. That can be changed. Either by changing their minds, or by removing and replacing them.

Nudding ,

Lol, who chose Biden VS trump, the American people? Please.

some_designer_dude ,

Oh I’m not assuming the system isn’t owned by the rich. But the people in power can still be removed and replaced, even if the methods in place aren’t setup for it. The French are pretty good at it, for example.

Nudding ,

Americans don't have the balls Imo, the French are unique in their relationship to the owner class.

ripcord ,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

You definitely don't appear to.

Nudding ,

You know a lot about balls?

Lol

in4aPenny ,

When are we going to change that? It's been a while, like 600BC, but we managed just fine for tens of thousands of years before minted coin.

Nudding ,

Unfortunately, we aren't.

RageAgainstTheRich ,

Just wanted to say your edit is awesome ✊

Haagel ,

Probably stepping down to sit on the board instead.

nondescripthandle ,

Nothing but a scapegoat if they replace him with another accountant instead of an engineer.

bionicjoey ,

It doesn't matter if the CEO was an engineer or not in a previous life. The job of a CEO doesn't change and he did exactly what he was supposed to do: made shortsighted decisions that maximised profit and took the fall for it when the short-sightedness of those decisions blew up in their faces.

wintermute_oregon ,

Until the merger, Boeing was engineer-driven. They were well known for safety first and design over cost.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/30/business/boeing-history-of-problems/index.html

There are hundreds of articles on this topic and you rant without knowing the topic.

bionicjoey ,

That doesn't change what I said. He did exactly what all boards expect their CEOs to do nowadays. No board of directors expects their CEO to have actual product knowledge.

wintermute_oregon ,

That isn't true at all. Intel has a history of it, Boeing, Tesla, etc.

Many companies have a history of having a CEO who has product knowledge.

bionicjoey ,

I'm not talking about history. I'm talking about the climate of capitalism in America right now

wintermute_oregon ,

It’s some weird rant that Isn’t relevant or accurate. The comment was they need to hire an engineer. That’s what Boeing use to do. That’s what many successful companies do that make products.

barryamelton ,

Tesla 🤣

bilb ,
@bilb@lem.monster avatar

Elon Musk is a brilliant inventor nonpareil. He invented tunnels, rockets, electric cars, and now Twitter.

5C5C5C , (edited )

By all credible accounts the systemic issues at Boeing predate this CEO by probably 2 decades. Dave Calhoun seems to specialize in "troubled companies", i.e. he has never been anything more than a professional scape goat.

Edit: I didn't do enough research, he hasn't really been CEO at many places, just upper positions like director and board member. Still, the companies he specializes in seem to be the ones with reputations to cannibalize for money by cutting quality and screwing consumers, like GE.

db2 ,

If it comes with golden parachutes it's all but guaranteed he doesn't care.

Zron ,

If I got millions of dollars every time a company went down in flames around me, I’d carry around a can of gas and matches.

He was CEO, he could have implemented policies to alleviate these issues. Instead he kept the status quo.

He belongs in jail, not another board room.

turkishdelight ,

Didn't he hold senior positions in Boeing much longer than he has been CEO?

5C5C5C ,

You're right, he was there since 2009, so he has probably been helping to design the cannibalization, but it certainly didn't begin with him.

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble ,

He was responsible for the figurative nosedive my boss' previous company did. Now he's responsible for the literal nosedive of Boeing.

This man is a professional company ruiner, not just a scape goat.

Rentlar ,

Calhoun's MCAS might have been set incorrectly 👀

wintermute_oregon ,

They need to get back to the engineering mindset. This is why I think CEO bonuses on things like EPS are BS. It should be tied to things like engineering, safety, etc.

jkrtn ,

It should be something that must be returned if there's a severe fuckup within five years or something. Also they shouldn't be getting bonuses, they are already massively overpaid.

wintermute_oregon ,

For most CEO, Bonuses and stock options are the bulk of their pay.

I have no issues with either or even their pay, but I have no issues with regulations around it since they are public companies. I do have issues with a product that should be safe with any bonus tied to profitability. It should be tied to safety.

pr06lefs ,

I think they're more in a "hire a hit man to kill whistleblowers" mindset. Not the sort to suddenly turn about and become engineering do-gooders.

YurkshireLad ,

I wonder what his golden handshake (parachute? What's the difference?) is, for screwing things up so badly?

catloaf ,

Golden handshake is coming in, golden handcuffs to keep you there, and golden parachute for your exit.

Reverendender ,
@Reverendender@sh.itjust.works avatar

One golden anything please

gothic_lemons ,

Best I can do is a golden shower

RGB3x3 ,

Yummy!

Reverendender ,
@Reverendender@sh.itjust.works avatar

Jeez, I just can't win in this timeline

BearOfaTime ,

Careful what you wish for! 🤣

northendtrooper ,

People need to remember that these only apply to high leadership. For us peons it usually is a Golden Shower.

alilbee ,

Oh this can absolutely happen at the less luxurious positions. For instance, FAANG (the big 5 tech companies, if you don't work tech like 3/4 of the Fediverse) can afford to pay salaries well above any other employers. We're talking 200k-400k here, not obscene billionaire-class stuff. Once they grab you, they can treat you worse once you get adjusted to the salary that no one else can match. I've seen it happen to a lot of people who end up miserable until they leave and have to go through the readjustment period.

massive_bereavement ,
@massive_bereavement@kbin.social avatar

The issue in this instance was not screwing things well enough.

ShittyBeatlesFCPres ,

He’s gonna need a parachute if he flies home on one of his planes.

dutchkimble ,

In this particular case a parachute is probably for the best

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