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PolandIsAStateOfMind , in Palworld reaches 1 million concurrent players on steam and becomes the first hit of 2024
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Huh and this isn't even free and it's still in early access.

Also from the steam page: "Don't worry; there are no labor laws for Pals." Ew. Not even the fact there are no labour laws, as it is expected from primitive game, but the fact some gross brain decided to specifically mention it as a perk of the game.

"Build a factory, place a Pal in it, and they'll keep working as long as they're fed—until they're dead, that is." - no seriously, fuck them.

naevaTheRat ,
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Jesus Christ I hope you're vegan. If you're upset about a silly joke considering the diagetic implications of monster collector/automation games: what we do to beings that have actual feelings should be a real concern for you.

petrol_sniff_king ,

Pokémon spends a lot of time—a silly amount of time, really—explaining how the fighting you're doing against other trainers isn't a bad thing, it's not cruel. It's more like sport. They like doing it. You bond with them over it. Everyone faints, no one dies. And when you're fighting Team Rocket, well, that's just a good cause. Something your Pokémon believe in just as much as you do.

So the lore goes, anyway. A bit naive, but sincere and earnest. Good values.

This very funny Palworld description is saying it's okay to treat them like slaves.

Like, they might not want to work on your cabin for you, but actually, there is no labor board to stop you from forcing them to. Do you think that keeping slaves is funny? Like, no other context, just: I have slaves, that is funny to me.

If the writer of this laugh out loud, very funny steam description doesn't mean it that way, they should change the joke. As a high-school graduate, you should be able to pick up subtext like this. It's very simple.

Sorry for the bold, I just wanted to make sure you saw me insulting you.

Keep in mind, I've never played this game: I have no opinions. Are they treated like slaves? Would you care to enlighten us?

naevaTheRat ,
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Yeah so it doesn't really matter what the "lore" is. Like if I write a book series with a slave race but I put in a line where a representative of the slave species, let's call them uhhh mouse-elves, says "oh master we love being slaves!" that doesn't actually change anything meaningful.

There is always this disconnect between the fact that in Pokémon, Digimon, SMT, whatever else I'm forgetting for all the "no this is actually good clean fun" (ok smt goes a bit darker but still very sanitised) the creatures exhibit almost 0 agency and at the end of the day mudkip is facing down a moon sized laser beam from a galactic god. Further in the media around at least Pokémon trainers are legitimately worried when their "pets" are overmatched or hurt.

So as much as they say "oh it's ok because mc gobbledygook" there is an enormous dissonance between what the audience sees/what the player does and what the media presents it as.

Also I note you're not vegan, so it's utterly bizarre you're concerned about the imaginary welfare of animated fantasy monsters but not actual earthlings we share the planet with and murder for pleasure.

also edit: I never graduated highschool, I was a bit busy being abused, I do have a masters and the ruins of a PhD though. I would tentatively suggest you focus your outrage on actual real problems and not kinda lazy filtered through a different culture and language parody of a genre advertising jokes.

1984 , in Steam adds "Dwarf" as a tag
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Slippery slope guys. Soon we have tags like "windy" or "landscape" or "table". :)

I think they did it because "let's play along" but it's still not a smart move. I guess they had to go along.

mr_MADAFAKA OP , in Tim Sweeney emailed Gabe Newell calling Valve 'you assholes' over Steam policies, to which Valve's COO replied internally 'you mad bro?'
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WarmSoda ,

Is epics cut still 12%?

snooggums ,
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If the percentage was the most important part, why isn't every game on Epic?

Midnitte ,

12% of 0 is still 0.

Also wouldn't be surprised if to get such a low rate requires exclusivity...

catloaf ,

Human rights principles? Tim needs to quit sniffing his own farts. He's trying to sell digital video games on iPhones, not end human trafficking.

acastcandream , in Tim Sweeney emailed Gabe Newell calling Valve 'you assholes' over Steam policies, to which Valve's COO replied internally 'you mad bro?'

I am not sympathetic at all to epic, let alone Tim Sweeney, but I do think people are very unwilling to talk about valve’s absolute dominance and how much the current ecosystem is heavily dependent on how magnanimous they are feeling.

We worry about companies that aren’t anywhere near as dominant as valve. Just because their interests align with ours today doesn’t mean they will tomorrow.

Switorik ,

Do you know why steam is dominating? There are no better alternatives. They actively work on projects that benefit everyone, including their competition.

For the time being, there's nothing to be said other than other companies need to stop being so shitty.

snooggums ,
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Yea, steam actually earned their market share through being a solid storefront and game distribution center and not because of exclusive releases from third parties or shady practices beyond promoting games.

Sure, they are the only place for valve games, but that is because those are their games. Yes, some of their games have loot boxes and that is all terrible, but that is the games and not inherent to steam.

jaykay ,
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It’s as if the recipe for success is not fucking over your customers and provide good product. Huh, weird

Kaldo ,

Did they tho? Steam was absolutely terrible in the beginning, the only reason people used it back in the early days is because you needed it for super popular valve games. It had nothing to do with them being a solid storefront or anything of sorts.

snooggums ,
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I have used it since a few days after release (Sept 13, 2003) because I was playing Counterstrike. It made updates and finding play servers so easy even though it did have a rough start with connectivity. Honestly, it was better than whatever we had to use prior even with the issues.

Once they sorted out the server issues and started adding non-valve games it became even more useful and we end up where we are now.

They are currently still on top because of being a solid storefront and the other things I listed.

stardust ,

And then look what happened after steam of companies saying PC is dead and not wanting to invest in it. It's not like the market wasn't open for anyone to enter. All the other companies didn't care including Microsoft in their own platform. Even look at how barebones the launchers are compared to Steam and how all the companies didn't care about Linux.

It's not like these opportunities were never around and Steam just happened to get good will. Companies still are putting in the bare minimum and have more trouble or maybe disinterest in matching the features of Steam than a new company making a smartphone. How ridiculous is that. That companies making a smartphone did a better job of trying to be modern than a companies attempt at a launcher.

Ashtefere ,

Valve forever more have my support just because of proton. Letting me get off windows to game has been revolutionary for me.

dudinax ,

Valve isn't dominating an essential industry. They could control 100% of the game market and it would make no difference to anything important.

hannes3120 , in Tim Sweeney emailed Gabe Newell calling Valve 'you assholes' over Steam policies, to which Valve's COO replied internally 'you mad bro?'

Steam is just perfect at keeping the gamers behind them as they are only assholes behind doors to the Devs on their platform.

30% is an absurd cut for a store that has such a monopoly that if you don't release there your game is pretty much cancelled even if you release at your own store without DRM and with additional goodies (Looking at GOG and The Witcher - they released the Gwent standalone like a year later on steam because it didn't sell at all on GOG and then it apparently outsold the GOG version without a week)

People are just too lazy and Steam is keeping them happy enough to not bother looking another way.

Epic isn't a good guy in any case but the exclusive deals on AAA Games they do is probably the only way to get someone to buy the game there instead of Steam

CoconutPetesPaella ,

Correct! Minecraft would never have been successful if not for Steam!

warm ,

I will buy from other storefronts if the deal is good, I have bought plenty from GOG. Epic are just anti-consumer and I refuse to support that store.

Steam just offers peace of mind with refunds and the feature set they provide is next to none, I haven't been given a reason to look elsewhere primarily.

Overspark ,

30% is the cut only if the sale happens on Steam itself. Devs can sell keys through other means and Valve gets 0%.

snooggums ,
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People are just too lazy and Steam is keeping them happy enough to not bother looking another way.

You say that like we are making any kind of sacrifice by using steam. I used Epic and Xbox Gamepass or whatever on PC for like a year or two but stopped using either because the steam experience is just better and the exclusives weren't worth changing.

warm , in Tim Sweeney emailed Gabe Newell calling Valve 'you assholes' over Steam policies, to which Valve's COO replied internally 'you mad bro?'

Valve could reduce their cut honestly, perhaps some program for independent developers to help them get on their feet. I don't think the top games or big publishers should be getting cut reductions.

Either way, Valve haven't been buying out studios for exclusive games, so Epic and Sweeney can go fuck themselves, they are scum.

KingThrillgore ,
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I do think Valve could drop it to 25% and not lose much sleep over their coffers.

CaptainBasculin , in Tim Sweeney emailed Gabe Newell calling Valve 'you assholes' over Steam policies, to which Valve's COO replied internally 'you mad bro?'
shiveyarbles , in Tim Sweeney emailed Gabe Newell calling Valve 'you assholes' over Steam policies, to which Valve's COO replied internally 'you mad bro?'

People hated Steam and were very skeptical initially. Respect was earned over time

elshandra , in Gabe looking good

Just Gabe working on a god tier game.

tryplot , in Gabe looking good

at this rate HL3 will be full-dive V.R.

Sabata11792 ,
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If I die in the game and don't die IRL, im going to refund it for ruining my immersion.

dumbass ,
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Man that's like 2 minutes of gameplay I'd get.

Sabata11792 ,
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Had to check for fall damage.

Zozano , in Gabe looking good
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What the actual fuck? I thought it looked poorly shopped, but it's legit.

https://starfishneuroscience.com/team/

I choose to believe Gabe had stored all that energy for just such an occasion.

li10 , in Gabe looking good

Gotta be Ozempic.

Too many famous people who’ve been overweight for decades suddenly losing weight in the last couple of years.

Nothing wrong with it though, hopefully it will start helping regular people lose weight as well.

oce ,
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Or he was eating to compensate his frustration to promote software for Windows and since they made Proton, he is happy again.

helenslunch ,
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I choose this explanation

Malix , in Steam now warns you if a game you're about to buy is already owned by someone in your Steam Family.
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wonder if it's going to rat someone out by saying something along the lines of

A member of your Steam Family already owns Horny Hentai Ladies: Stupidly huge dongs GOTY

RenardDesMers ,
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You can put those games as private

Malix ,
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ah, right. that's a thing.

Goes to show how little I have needed it (or how little shame I have) :P

daisyKutter , in I'm sorry, what?
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For me the real question is why is there an achievement for starting the game?

I'm the first with several unopened games on Steam, but come on, let's not dilute the meaning of achievement

CorrodedCranium , in Helldivers 2 went from one of the most beloved Steam games to one of the most hated pretty quickly
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I am curious how this is going to effect the number of active players. I know a lot of people who were trying to get me to play this saying it was here to stay and not a trend like a Lethal Company but I feel like this hurdle might be enough to get them to give up.

I definitely have a low level of tolerance for Russian nesting dolls of accounts and launchers.

li10 ,

I’d be surprised if it really has much of an impact on number of players tbh.

Most people don’t care, Lemmy/Reddit are a vocal minority.

Aphelion ,

The game racked up over 10k negative reviews in 90 minutes yesterday. People are pissed. There's also the issue of PSN only being available in a about a third of all countries.

I just uninstalled the game over this and I have 350+ hours.

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