jerry ,
@jerry@infosec.exchange avatar

Ok, looks like I have to find a new dns home for Infosec.exchange. Bunny.net is not working out. Who do you all like?

YvanDaSilva ,
@YvanDaSilva@hachyderm.io avatar

@jerry I've been using infomaniak recently.
I only use then for DNS.

I didn't find price per request however. I am not certain they have one as I don't find any limits either.

I was too tired of GoDaddy BS back then :/

ForiamCJ ,
@ForiamCJ@infosec.exchange avatar

@jerry

I haven't tried them (yet), but I've heard good things about PorkBun

gh0sti ,
@gh0sti@mastodon.social avatar

@jerry cloudflare?

scrantic ,
@scrantic@infosec.exchange avatar

@jerry can’t fastly do your DNS as well as CDN?

jerry OP ,
@jerry@infosec.exchange avatar

@scrantic sadly, Fastly does not have a dns service.

scrantic ,
@scrantic@infosec.exchange avatar

@jerry that’s unfortunate, I always assumed they did and operated much like CF from a basic product standpoint

jerry OP ,
@jerry@infosec.exchange avatar

@scrantic the good news is that bunny.net fixed the problem. I think I am going to look at moving to dnsimple, but I can take my time now.

colin ,
@colin@colincogle.name avatar

@jerry I use Hurricane Electric’s free DNS service. I run a hidden primary that syncs with them, and they provide five named secondaries. Full support for , because it’s not 1998 anymore. https://dns.he.net

standev ,
@standev@mastodon.online avatar

@jerry I use Cloudflare but I don’t like it

kev ,
@kev@fosstodon.org avatar

@jerry I’ve been using Cloudns for around 10 years now I think, and they’ve always been great. They offer DDoS protection too.

https://cloudns.net

sbank ,
@sbank@hachyderm.io avatar

@jerry take a look at the ones that EFF’s certbot supports programmatically.

https://eff-certbot.readthedocs.io/en/latest/using.html#dns-plugins

Then you can narrow it down from there. (My DNS server is not on there so it is such a long and tedious manual process to update certs.)

cshishido ,
@cshishido@infosec.exchange avatar

@jerry ah, so you are under a ddos attack.
Cheapest Anycast for the bulk is a requirement IMHO, but I would use a registrar's NS server as one NS with a long TTL (It can be a fun way to fingerprint an attack). In my ideal world, I'd have another authNS capable server on standby to rotate in when under attack to collect data.

xyhhx ,
@xyhhx@nso.group avatar

@jerry i use porkbun + desec.io, personally

Jeff ,
@Jeff@bluenoser.me avatar

@jerry dynu.com is my go to. Is been around for about as long as the internet, US based, small company, lots of servers and services related to DNS

diazona ,
@diazona@techhub.social avatar

@jerry Registrar or zone records?

I use Dynadot as my registrar, for probably about 15 years. Their prices are a little higher than some others but I couldn't be more satisfied with the service: it just works, no outages I can remember (certainly at least no major ones), on the rare occasion I needed something they've been very responsive, and no marketing emails or anything like that. In this case I have zero regrets about my decision to prioritize quality over price.

My DNS zone records are at Linode because that's where I host my servers, and they do totally fine, but that one was a choice of convenience more than anything else.

jerry OP ,
@jerry@infosec.exchange avatar

@diazona zone hosting. I push a lot of dns traffic on a good day (3M requests or so). And a LOT when it’s under a ddos attack (500M-1B per day)

diazona ,
@diazona@techhub.social avatar

@jerry Gotcha, well in that case it probably doesn't make sense to put too much weight on my feedback - while I'm happy with both companies, I don't know how things would be different if I were using them at the scale you deal with.

apicultor ,
@apicultor@hachyderm.io avatar

@jerry Gandi. Supports DNSSEC too.

jerry OP ,
@jerry@infosec.exchange avatar

@apicultor I should give that a look. The name is registered with gandi. I wonder how they handle high volume names though.

apicultor ,
@apicultor@hachyderm.io avatar

@jerry Oh, and their API integrates great with ACME clients for DNS-01 challenges, too.

mnordhoff ,

@jerry @apicultor I've heard Gandi doesn't really care about volume, but I don't know if that's still the case since they got bought.

mvilain ,
@mvilain@sfba.social avatar

@jerry I had the same issue when Google Domains announced their pending transfer to Squarespace. I moved all my domains to Namecheap after reading a bunch of articles. Google Domains' UI made it easy and simple. And any google cloud stuff changed entries managed by Google Domains. Same with AWS Route53, but without paying monthly for zone records. Updates to Google Domains and Route53 seem to have almost no time-to-live. Unlimited aliases were great.

GoDaddy was great 20 years ago but they've added so much cruft to their site to try and generate new revenue streams that when I helped a non-technie setup their domain, they were so confused as to throw up their hands.

Namecheap is approaching that level of cruft with WhiteGlove™ DNS, Wordpress, and Private Email offerings but they're not there yet. It took a couple hours for Namecheap changes to propagate to AT&T's DNS servers. I had to add a weird @ record to get my web site's A record to work.

mnordhoff ,

@jerry I'm still using https://www.cloudns.net/ for secondary DNS and have few complaints.

I haven't had a crisis yet which also means I don't know how well they handle crises.

jerry OP ,
@jerry@infosec.exchange avatar

@mnordhoff I have about as many requests in a day as their top plan allows in a month. I may see what sort of deal they have for higher volumes though

mnordhoff ,

@jerry You said 3 million/day in another branch of the thread; some of their plans are 200+ million/month or "unlimited"?

(The Premium M plan used to be "unlimited" but was shrinkflated to 200 million.)

jeffmarkel ,
@jeffmarkel@mastochist.social avatar

@jerry I host at Linode (which is now Akamai) and they do my DNS also. I have long used Namecheap for buying domains (they didn't used to be a domain registrar but I think they may be now) and IIRC they do DNS service too.

cshishido ,
@cshishido@infosec.exchange avatar

@jerry PairDomains is simple and only changed hands once (customer since 2001). Hover.com is part of Tucows so they'll be around for a while because of OpenSRS.

I haven't investigated NS server network diversity, but I might shop for anycast authNS at the same time just in case.

jahanson ,
@jahanson@infosec.exchange avatar

@jerry DNSimple @trusty

jerry OP ,
@jerry@infosec.exchange avatar

@jahanson @trusty the price is a little scary. I need to take a look. We do about 3M queries/day

jahanson ,
@jahanson@infosec.exchange avatar

@jerry @trusty @aeden What would this be like for a service like infosec.exchange?

aeden ,
@aeden@dnsimple.social avatar

@jerry @jahanson @trusty it might end up being less than that at our origins which is where we currently calculate volume from. Even then we're talking $10 a month at that volume.

jerry OP ,
@jerry@infosec.exchange avatar

@aeden @jahanson @trusty that is reasonable

kmj ,
@kmj@mastodon.ctseuro.com avatar

@jerry
Why not self hosting your DNS Servers? Running mine self hosted since decades.

jerry OP ,
@jerry@infosec.exchange avatar

@kmj it kept getting DDOS’d

kmj ,
@kmj@mastodon.ctseuro.com avatar

@jerry
I only had a very few problems. But i have 3 pub DNS and 2 backup to switch DNS IPs in case of problems.

jerry OP ,
@jerry@infosec.exchange avatar

@kmj I had an attack a few months back that caused me to move to bunny.net. I previously had 3 dedicated nameservers, but started getting hammered with ~500M-1B dns requests per day and I couldn’t add servers fast enough to keep things working.

kmj ,
@kmj@mastodon.ctseuro.com avatar

@jerry
I have a central blocklist which is rolled out to the firewalls in front of them. This helped me to come out of a similar situation. The question is, have they hammered you, which would cause the attack to move to the new servers, or was it a not driven attack against some IP.

reconbot ,
@reconbot@toot.cafe avatar

@jerry just aws tbh, I’m sure there are many great ones out there but it’s really good and cheap enough not to mater

mjf_pro ,
@mjf_pro@hachyderm.io avatar

@jerry Our firm uses DNS Made Easy, which Digicert owns for the moment. DNS for GUI addicts, basically.

selea ,
@selea@social.linux.pizza avatar

@jerry

What issues do you have?
currently on bunny myself

Sempf ,
@Sempf@infosec.exchange avatar

@jerry I use and like dnsimple, but I don't know if the services offered are equivalent.

rallias ,
@rallias@hax.social avatar

@jerry buyvm anycast for one nameserver, ovh for the other.

jerry OP ,
@jerry@infosec.exchange avatar

@rallias wow - ovh is $1.31 per year?!?!?

rallias ,
@rallias@hax.social avatar

@jerry I... Uhh... They have a dedicated service? I was moreso suggesting setting up powerdns on CPS.

jerry OP ,
@jerry@infosec.exchange avatar

@rallias ahhh - you mean they rent anycast IPs?

rallias ,
@rallias@hax.social avatar

@jerry Yeah, buyvm has an offer where you can get an anycast IP address if you have a VPS in each location - https://buyvm.net/anycast-vps/

iworx ,
@iworx@infosec.exchange avatar

@jerry @bert_hubert might be -the- guiding light.

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