GottaLaff ,
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Via Elie Mystal:

I wish there weren’t going to be debates.
A:They’re dumb
B:2nd term pres are notoriously bad in their 1st debate for reelection. They’re not used to being…questioned. Challenged. Having somebody in their face like that.

Obama got touched up by Romney in their 1st one. HW Bush got destroyed by Bill Clinton. Clinton in turn had trouble w wooden Bob Dole 1st time out

I slightly remember W doing ok against Kerry. But W was so fucking stupid “okay” was using complete sentences

iuculano ,
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@GottaLaff

One thing I'd like to point out, however. In the examples cited by #ElieMystal, not once was the "challenger" a former US President; the object of #impeachment...twice; a president that had attempted a #coup; an #insurrectionist; a former president found liable for #Rape; a thief of #ClassifiedDocuments, who never returned said documents when government came a-calling; a former president indicted for #conspiracy.
→not full list

#RussiaRussiaRussia #PutinsPuppet #RussianAsset

JudyOlo ,
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@GottaLaff
Maybe. But not for reasons said. Joe is used to being challenged. He's not some self-important demagogue sitting in an ivory tower. His entire term has been rwnj conspiracy challenges. 24/7. AND, his opponent is a stark raving, babbling, incoherent lunatic.

LiberalEd ,
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@GottaLaff

Sorry for the contrarian hot take, but ...

I think Trump reflexively jumped and said he'd debate because he feared looking weak. Then he immediately started changing the non-negotiable terms so that Biden would be the one to say no.

Trump is afraid to debate, and is playing games to offload the blame for them not happening onto Biden. I will be very surprised if either debate actually does happen.

Aviva_Gary ,
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@GottaLaff Debates are great for policy concerns (as in talking about policies like taxes, education etc)

This election is not a policy election... it never was.

Danetteb ,
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@GottaLaff I think debates are generally overrated. Against TFG they’re a waste of Bidens time

GottaLaff OP ,
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@Danetteb Agree

caseyjonesed ,
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@GottaLaff 😂

lillyfinch ,
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@GottaLaff not sure we can compare the debates of past presidents with this sistuation. This all new terrirory and Biden has gotten some very savvy and sharp people working for him. My only concern is if they will turn the mic off when t tries to bulldoze Biden. t doesn’t want a live audience for some reason.

CarlataOld ,
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@GottaLaff
My daughter was about 9 when she saw W debate Kerry and her comment was, "He's the child left behind."

GottaLaff OP ,
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@CarlataOld LOL, wow. Smart kid.

CarlataOld ,
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@GottaLaff
Yeah I was always stunned by her penetrating gaze. She still has it and I've come to rely on it, though it's inconvenient sometimes, lol.

samadeleine ,
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@GottaLaff "They’re not used to being…questioned. Challenged. Having somebody in their face like that." Sounds like the other guy, before this trial anyway.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@samadeleine Right? But it tends to be true.

deborahh ,
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@GottaLaff that last SOTU suggests to me that Biden's prep team is on their game.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@deborahh They are, but these debates are a mistake.

MiriShuli ,
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@GottaLaff @deborahh I don’t think they will actually occur. I cannot see Trump on a stage with Biden. No way he runs that risk.

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