Zaktor ,

There's some governors that matter in there, but I'm amused to see a quote from Hochul. She's not particularly popular and at least a couple weeks ago was even less popular than Biden among New Yorkers. Maybe she's popular with donors, it's not like New York is actually in play.

https://scri.siena.edu/2024/06/20/hochul-favorability-38-49-job-approval-44-50-ratings-lowest-ever-voters-hochul-doesnt-care-about-people-like-them-or-provide-decisive-leadership-small-pluralities-think-she-works-hard-a/

givesomefucks ,

A new poll from the New York Times/Siena College showed that 49% of voters would vote for Trump, compared with 43% of voters who said they would vote for Biden.

A different poll said former first lady Michelle Obama is the only Democrat who could beat Trump, but she has previously said she would not be running.

I honestly don't know what her personal politics are, but fuck it, she's got the best chance at beating trump and that's what matters most.

OpenStars ,
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She will never run, so moving on.

Could this be a good time to advance AOC? Probably the hit jobs done on her rep were too effective though.

What about Pete Buttigieg? Conservatives will never vote for him, ofc, but I don't know about the handful of people that actually matter.

Hey, if we are swallowing our noses, would Liz Cheney have a better chance against Trump? It's sort of like chopping off both of your arms but... given the alternatives facing us atm - Trump vs. hope against facts that somehow Biden will beat Trump, which is starting to look like just another road to Trump - it might be worth a gamble despite everything? Or fucking Mitt fucking Romney (fucking)? 🤮

Basically it's Trump vs. whoever isn't Trump. Then we re-do all of this over again 4 years from now, or really 2 bc of midterm elections.

Zaktor ,

No Republicans. I don't know why people are chasing the center-right like they're the most important constituency there is, but Biden has been losing support from key minority and youth demographics. Crater those numbers even further and picking up whatever sliver of available Republican votes there is won't matter.

Elections are not a simple one-dimensional scale where whoever runs the most to the center wins.

OpenStars ,
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Good points. I was thinking along the lines that youth votes might enjoy someone who could finish uttering a sentence, which neither of the current candidates can, really. And then the like 10 other people across the entire nation that because of the Electoral College, get to decide our collective fates.

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