randon31415 ,

Maybe Biden should push more for "Biden's agenda". It feels like Biden is pushing harder for COPPA (require people to be 18 and have a license to go on the internet, allow state attorney general to censor LGTBQ stuff online) then popular stuff like marajana legalization or Roe codification.

Son_of_dad ,

I'm not surprised Biden isn't pushing marijuana reform. He's one of the biggest proponents of the horribly racist, classist, and murderous drug war. He's from a generation that thinks reefer madness is an accurate representation of pot, and his personal prejudice towards recreational drugs is widely known.

He's always been the wrong candidate, but the Democrats can't seem to find anyone better. All we can hope is that Republicans stay home and he gains votes that way

Melkath ,

Its not that Democrats can't find anyone better. It's that they won't allow anyone better to advance through the ranks.

Its that Biden is exactly who the DNC wants in office.

Once upon a time, there was an argument that at least some Democrats tried to represent their constituents.

Those days are long gone. Citizens United stands. Corporations are "the people" the federal government represents. Money is speech. If you don't have the money, they don't have ears for you. Both parties represent the corporations, not the people, and Biden has a wonderful history of supporting all of those corrupt things that make the corporate overlords happy.

spaceghoti OP ,

Please stop with the "both sides are the same" bullshit. We don't need repetitions of Republican talking points.

Melkath ,

Please stop with the "my color good, your color bad" bullshit.

I have never heard a republican say they are the same as a Democrat.

But just like a republican, if it doesn't pledge fealty to your color, it's the other color and its bad.

Stop treating America like a Grease high school rivalry.

Stop supporting corrupt politicians.

spaceghoti OP ,

We've seen how the government works when Democrats have control. No one will call it perfect, but it works and they generally try to help people.

We also see repeatedly how government works with Republicans in power. They don't do shit to help anyone but themselves and their donor class.

Until we fix the first past the post electoral system, these are our choices. Whining about it won't fix it. We first have to eliminate the fascist threat posed by Republicans, then we can talk about reform.

Just because you've never heard a Republican declare they're the same as a Democrat doesn't mean you aren't repeating Republican propaganda. They don't care what you think of them. If you have no faith in government, they win. If you think Democrats are just as bad, they win. Shrinking government until it can be drowned in the tub is the point. Then they can break up its functions and sell them off to private interests. If you want to see a return to feudalism, keep repeating this bullshit. Just don't think you're going to be welcomed into the new nobility.

Melkath ,

Bullshit.

Democrats had the oval office and a congressional supermajority.

The Patriot Act still exists in full form. Citizens United still exists in full form. Gitmo is still operational. Roe v Wade has not been codified.

In those years where we could have gotten universal Healthcare, they delivered everyone must pay for health insurance, employed or not.

In those years, the Iraq War not only continued, but the US added arial drone warfare to the military industrial complex.

When Obama spoke, he inspired, he lead, he made you feel something positive. He didn't follow through on ANYTHING though.

Biden got us out of Iraq. I think he botched the exit, but at least we got out of Iraq under his presidency. Then he decided to triple down on funding a genocide.

I can name 3 democrats (and politicians in general for that fact) I still trust. Bernie Sanders, AOC (though the longer she is hanging out with the dogs, the more I fear she is hosting some fleas) and Katie Porter.

The rest of em are Hilary progressives that are only concerned with cozying up with wall street insiders and lobbyist funders.

spaceghoti OP ,

Well, I see the Russian disinformation crew had joined us. Congratulations to lemmy for growing enough to become a target!

Melkath ,

Wooooooooow.

Imma hope you were shittin' yer britches during the Obama administration and that's your defense for being that ignorant.

Ensign_Crab ,

Can't refute? Just make wild accusations!

spaceghoti OP ,

There's no point in refuting Republican talking points that were discredited thirteen years ago. The Democrats had their supermajority for a total of two weeks at the end of 2009. Not nearly enough time to pass anything and everything they wanted. That talking point is dead and buried and is more than enough evidence that I'm not dealing with someone arguing in good faith.

Is that your intent as well? Sealion me so I waste my time rehashing old, dead arguments?

Melkath ,

Biden is funding a genocide. Wants to be given the power to do so closed door.

New argument.

Go. Tell me why this man is worthy of being my leader.

You don't get to reference Trump. Or Republicans in general.

Why should I vote for a man fervently enabling genocide?

Argongas ,

There are a lot of great Democrats out there, but there are plenty of bad ones too. I don't think we'll see real change until most of the boomers are dead and gone.

There's also the issue that with Republicans losing their damn minds, big money and corporations have been shifting their support to Dems.

Melkath ,

Because The Party is The Party.

But I agree that Boomers are the worst offenders of voting R or D regardless of whose name the letter is next to because they fancy their letter the lesser evil.

Gen X really amped up the problem on the D side though.

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