Godric ,

I don't remember this scene, what episode is it from?

mozz Admin ,
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I'm just here to see people in the comments taking this seriously and getting upset 😀

spujb ,

proud of this comment section for recognizing bs when bs is present

Ultragramps ,
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The notable historian Eddie Izzard made a compelling argument about how the British Empire employed the cunning use of flags to bring people under their rule.

0xb ,
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most knowledgeable capitalism apologist

HelixDab2 ,

Capitalism is when I own all the tools, and someone else does the labor in return for a small portion of the trade receipts. If the first nations people did that, then sure, the were proto-capitalists.

conditional_soup ,

We have little to no evidence that this was the case. Unfortunately, we do have evidence that the first nations were settled, agrarian societies before smallpox and company were introduced. That's what De Soto describes encountering 100 years before the English document that the first nations peoples live as roving hunter gatherers. Because our written historical record was only able to record what amounts to a post-apocalyptic society, and the first nations kept little written records themselves, there's so much about Native America that we just won't ever be sure about.

HelixDab2 ,

To be clear, I'm not saying that first nations peoples were proto-capitalists. Just what the conditions for being a capitalist are.

DragonTypeWyvern , (edited )

And even if they knew what words meant...

So?

They'd still have been genocided by capitalism (in this framework). Do they think it doesn't count when you do it to your own ideology?

Most of the criticisms about capitalism are that it eats its own young!

Tartas1995 ,

I think it is only about the meme(?) and how the premise of the content is wrong and through that any discussion about the argument itself is pointless.

Your criticism is valid but it's based on accepting the premise that they already rejected.

rockSlayer ,

Is the joke that he's talking nonsense? Trade doesn't make a society capitalist.

taanegl ,

Came here to say this. Thinking trade and markets make capitalism is classic liberal/conservative mindrot.

Neato ,
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Yep. He's describing commerce, or just trade on a smaller level.

paultimate14 ,

Capitalism is when trade checkmate communists

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