NutWrench ,
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How about we ban companies like Blackstone from buying up all the auction homes, lightly flipping them and then putting them back on the market as overpriced rentals?

They're a big reason for our housing shortage.

HawlSera ,

Now if only they would stop framing the dropping of home prices as a bad thing.

Don't attack the homeless, attack the lack of homes.

Duke_Nukem_1990 ,

Was there no housing crisis before AirBnB?

harry_balzac ,

There was but AirBNB et al made it worse. The other piece of it is private equity firms buying up homes and using them for long term rentals.

mathematicalMagpie ,

This is less a meme, and more a screenshot of an article

LoamImprovement ,

Good. Sorry to every mom and pop who treated housing like an investment, but at least you still have the house. Hope they slash the market 90%. Hope everyone who's been waiting for a decade gets a place to live. Hope opportunistic landlords choke and go bust when they can't pay three mortgages on their tenants' salaries anymore. Housing is a human right.

Kittenstix ,

It's definitely not going to slash it 90% to do that you'd have to make moves to guarantee houses are always losing value, much in the same way cars do, so that you have a thriving used house market for people that can't afford, or don't care, to buy new.

That means either implementing the construction of houses with materials that have a short life, or forcing houses to be torn down after, let's say 50 years.

I'd prefer just getting rid of ownership of property, but i dont know if we are ready for that as a society.

theUnlikely ,

This is basically how it is in Japan and why Tokyo is actually affordable to live in. https://youtu.be/d6ATBK3A_BY

Of course, this might not be implementable anywhere else.

ShustOne ,

"affordable"

theUnlikely ,

https://sopuli.xyz/pictrs/image/d774df2a-c039-4e46-8f34-0b77e4f5bbfd.webp

Seems relatively affordable for a city considered to be one of the most economically important cities in the world.

Spaceballstheusername ,

Affordable, that's God damn cheap idk what salaries are in Tokyo but that sounds pretty good.

iAvicenna ,

what about not allowing companies to buy hundreds of houses as rental property?

Wrench ,

It's not just companies. Individuals are also chain buying places. Establish income from airbnb, leverage for their next purchase.

My real estate agent was buying his 3rd airbnb while I was looking 2 years ago. Dude was in his late 20s.

I'm hoping the house of cards comes crumbling down. Been dealing with housing insecurity as my landlord terminated our lease.

wintermute_oregon ,

I’ve seen on Airbnb people who own 50+ properties.

I used air bnb and fees times and found it more expensive and a hassle compared to a hotel.

250 dollar cleaning fee but you want me to take out all the trash, was the sheets, sweep, mop etc. no thank you

The_v ,

I priced out an air bnb versus one of the nicer extended stay places. The ones that are larger and nicer than the apartments I have lived in.

Guess what came in at 1/3 less cost, had maid service, and a free breakfast.

I am all for banning Air BNB flat out unless the owner is living in the building. I am okay with a person buying a house and then renting out rooms or converting a basement to an apartment to lend out. It doesn't remove available housing inventory from market to sit empty most of the year.

wintermute_oregon ,

I am all for banning Air BNB flat out unless the owner is living in the building. I am okay with a person buying a house and then renting out rooms or converting a basement to an apartment to lend out. It doesn’t remove available housing inventory from market to sit empty most of the year.

That’s where I stand. Also helps a young person afford a home by renting a room.

I’ve been watching the Oregon coast. I’ve seen a lot of air bnb for sale. Seems like the market is dropping on them.

RegalPotoo ,
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You don't need to ban them, just make them meet the same regulations on safety and zoning that regular hotels have to

KevonLooney ,

Everyone who says "ban them" seems like they have never left the US. In Europe and Latin America, there are a ton of other websites that locals use for the same thing. Before the web, you would call up a few places listed in a guidebook and rent it over the phone.

I dislike Airbnb because it's expensive. The concept of "renting a room" in a vacation area will never go away. But the idea of $100 cleaning fees, when they just change the sheets and wipe down surfaces (30 minutes total) is dumb.

EldritchFeminity ,

We're no strangers to it in the US as well, but what AirBnB has allowed is an industry of landlords that have strangled the housing stock in a number of places. It's not the people renting a room in their house that are the issue, it's the people buying apartments and houses specifically as rental property. I remember seeing a photo of LA that had AirBnB properties marked, and it was estimated at around 45% of all housing as being short-term-only rentals.

I live in a condo complex of duplexes in a summer vacation spot that has a limit on the number of units that can be rented out specifically to avoid this kind of problem - they want affordable housing for people who are actually living here, and not properties that are going to sit empty 8 months of the year. They don't care if you rent out a single room or something, but we have a lady who owns a building who doesn't even live in the same state. She has to drive like 4 hours to get here.

Neato ,
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Did sites like VRBO for vacation and large house rentals exist for AirBnb? I didn't really book those at that point. While I agree airbnb should probably be replaced by hotels (like in the past) was there a way to rent a large living space for a group pre-airbnb?

ALoafOfBread ,

AirBNB used to be about just renting a room in your house out to people. Before it got big it wasn't about "list your short term rental here".

Actually, vrbo was more like that - vrbo was around long before airbnb and was meant to be a way to help market your short term rental or like rent your vacation house out while you werent using it.

The problem is they each fill a niche, the need for short term accommodation with privacy for a group, but its super easy to take advantage and start listing huge numbers of properties to make lots of money if youre a leech landlord - which is part of why we're in such a bad situation now with the housing market.

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