Assman , (edited )
@Assman@sh.itjust.works avatar

Most democrats supported the Iraq war

Still voting Joe tho (who voted for the Iraq war btw)

homesweethomeMrL OP ,

In the senate, but not in the house.

Also, we can agree the DNC of yesteryear is (hopefully) gone. I haven’t seen a bunch of bloodless garbage about “better jobs” or what the fuck ever in awhile. Of course that’s in part because the “republiQan lite” approach was a goddamned disaster.

Assman ,
@Assman@sh.itjust.works avatar

we can agree the DNC of yesteryear is (hopefully) gone

"hopefully" being the operative term. No more Manchins or Sinemas please.

homesweethomeMrL OP ,

Werd.

prunerye ,

I suspect that for every Manchin and Sinema who took the negative publicity, there are 10 Manchins and Sinemas who didn't have to. They'll cash out when it's their turn. Call me cynical if you want.

Bezzelbob ,
@Bezzelbob@lemmy.world avatar
rottingleaf ,

What's certain is that the children will be silent tonight

homesweethomeMrL OP ,

Username . . checks out?

blazera ,
@blazera@lemmy.world avatar

I dont see this changing anytime soon. 2024, trumps looking likely, US continues getting shittier. Maybe Biden wins, US continues getting shittier but slower. 2028, either trump running again, or trump jr, or desantis, another big threat of far right fascism leaving progressive voters feeling pressured once again to put pushing for reform on hold and holding their nose for a well connected "safe" centrist candidate.

Maestro ,
@Maestro@fedia.io avatar

You do reform in between elections and during the primaries. Not during general election.

blazera ,
@blazera@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah reforms not gonna happen inside a democrat primary.

Facebones ,

Three steps right or 6 steps right, we're still moving right - and democrats have already made sure to close off all roads to applying any leftward force. Either we reward them for moving further right or we vote for someone who doesn't suck and they say "see we have to move further right."

TLDR we have a singular party and corpos gonna corpo

intensely_human ,

Stop running shit candidates?

eestileib ,

That's right, condescendion is how you build a political coalition.

I'm voting for Biden but smug centrist scolds like this guy make it hard to bring others along.

mozz Admin ,
mozz avatar

No, right now we’re doin “it’s the candidates job to market themselves, not the voters’ job to vote for the better candidate, so please don’t talk to me about which candidate is better while I’m talking to you about which candidate is failing to market themselves.”

Next week is when “being right about things is called smugness and it’s not cool ok” comes into the rotation

eestileib ,

Why hello, Smug Centrist Scold.

Don't want to keep your from your NPR, cheers have a nice day.

homesweethomeMrL OP ,

So is sh.itjust.works the new lemmy.ml? Asking for a comrade.

eestileib ,

Don't extrapolate from me to the rest of sh.itjust.works; I'm my own idiot, tyvm.

Mastengwe ,

What an astute and hopefully eye-opening perspective.

Cipher22 ,

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  • mozz Admin ,
    mozz avatar

    What?

    FauxPseudo ,
    @FauxPseudo@lemmy.world avatar

    The moment Clinton announced Al Gore as his running mate he lost my vote. I was very familiar with Tipper Gore and the PMRC and had even read her book "Raising PG Kids in an X-Rated Society"*

    There was no way I was going to vote for anyone remotely related to her to be in the White House. It was the first election I had participated in. I do not regret this vote because Clinton still became president and things didn't work out for various reasons.

    • These days that book couldn't even get published. The page count was too small. You can't get a book that is less than 300 pages published anymore as a standalone thing through major publisher. This should make you question how much filler there is in current nonfiction books.
    DAMunzy ,

    More brain rot Liberal crap. DNC should run better candidate instead of blaming the people.

    rbesfe ,

    Yawn

    DAMunzy ,

    And that's why you're the problem. Just a vote blue even though they disappoint every year.

    zarkanian ,
    @zarkanian@sh.itjust.works avatar

    If Jill makes you yawn, vote for Cornel West.

    mozz Admin ,
    mozz avatar

    Hey, want to restart this conversation? I’m interested to hear more about the nature of the justice system in the USSR, and now I’m pretty curious what is your assessment of the Ukraine war.

    Allonzee ,

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  • homesweethomeMrL OP ,

    So, how does media work?

    PhlubbaDubba ,

    They can get excited for a candidate who's literally the living antithesis of their supposed values and yet Democrats not only have to be more popular but wildly so for electoral results that let them go anywhere meaningful.

    Not even nominal trifecta control is evidently enough if even one dem thinks a procedural glitch caused by only repealing half a rule by accident, because somehow the cornfields get to hold everything hostage by just declaring "nah we're not done debating yet" and then just never letting it be discussed again.

    It's frustrating beyond imagination and even worse it is all entirely by design with the intention of continuous disenfranchisement, against the young, against women, against people of color, and even past all them, against people who don't own their own land.

    The establishment types and chrisnats drone on and on about how America is a shining city upon a hill, and in doing so have completely lost the plot. America should never accept that it is the city on the hill, it should forever be striving to be the city on the hill. We need to find a way together to break the walls down and rebuild the structure of this country to be one that is well and good capable enough of getting out of its own way to be able to seek constant and pro-active improvement to the model.

    disguy_ovahea , (edited )

    Living antithesis of Democratic values?

    Biden rejoined the Paris Climate Agreement, revoked the Keystone Pipeline permit, created a 13 million acre federal petroleum reserve for Alaskan wildlife, greatly increased oil site lease cost, signed $7B in solar subsidies, enacted the Inflation Reduction act to support clean energy, leveraged the NLRB for an FTC ruling that eliminated non-compete agreements, forgave billions in student debt from predatory loans, created the CHIPS Act to improve reliance on domestic technology, reenacted Net Neutrality, repealed Title 42, ended the Muslim Ban, reinstated the law prohibiting Israeli settlement on Palestinian territory, signed the Equality Act for LGBTQ+ rights, restored gay rights to beneficiaries, reenacted trans care anti-discrimination law, signed the Respect for Marriage Act, enabled unspecified gender on US Passports, rejoined WHO, rescheduled marijuana, actively reducing drug costs with the American Rescue Plan Act…

    PhlubbaDubba ,

    I was referring to Trump.

    He's literally a big city elite with multiple children by multiple women who openly flaunts his disregard for the institution of his own marriage, but the redcaps don't even blink at the thought of casting the ballot for him, because he's the candidate, and him losing means the other guy wins, and unlike Dems, they are actually able to care about "if our guy doesn't win the other guy will" by itself.

    disguy_ovahea , (edited )

    Sorry about that. I misunderstood, and agree with that. Although Biden isn’t just “not Trump.” He’s done plenty of good, as I wrote above, and some bad, as we all know.

    TachyonTele ,

    Holy shit man, are you commenting on every single reply in this topic? Take your meds.

    Lightrider ,
    @Lightrider@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Defeat genocidejoehitler

    homesweethomeMrL OP ,

    plink

    mozz Admin ,
    mozz avatar

    I think it's spelled "plonk"

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