PhlubbaDubba ,

Ok I feel like I've seen a bunch of reports on the threat of right wing domestic terrorism from DHS and the letter brigade without seeing a lot of reports on what they can broadcast they are doing to address those threats. Like is there a specific set of tools they have to get congressional approval for or can they just get to work on these fools the way they've done with orgs like the klan before.

PugJesus ,
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or can they just get to work on these fools the way they’ve done with orgs like the klan before.

I don't think DHS actually has any major wins to its name. The original KKK was destroyed by the US military (deployed by authority of the president, but with legislature from Congress approving the measure), and the second KKK was destroyed by the IRS.

PhlubbaDubba ,

Well you get what I mean, committing to any sort of enforcement action

spujb OP ,

honestly the DHS being involved in this is just confusing to me too since they don’t seem to do… much at all, it’s weird to see them squarely on the side of human dignity for once.

hence why i also cited the Human Rights Commission :)

lurch ,

some people are trying to undo the progress the world made in the 90s and early 00s. it's not just on this subject (abortion too, for example). even if this doesn't affect everyone directly, it's bad for the general mood and indirecty makes society and economy more dull and less innovative. it's like a big weight pressing down on everyone.

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,
PugJesus ,
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"According to a briefing of the Department of Homeland Security"

So, it is recognized and acknowledged as a problem by the Federal government, rather than action taken by the Federal government against, say, one of the few LGBT centers in the country

spujb OP ,

that’s pretty awful. :( i wouldn’t compare anything tho. imo i just like presenting the truth as it stands, comparing of suffering generally leads nowhere

PugJesus ,
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It's hard not to see the comparison when you posted this meme literally right after a post in the same format with a similar title addressing this issue in China.

spujb OP , (edited )

yikes sorry i don’t mean to compare. it’s just putting the info out there.

edit: the reason i made the post was your title “why would the west do this,” and its implication that the west wouldn’t. the west does this shit. china does this shit. comparing oppression is a race to the bottom. being anti-fascist and loving your queer neighbors is universal.

PugJesus ,
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edit: the reason i made the post was your title “why would the west do this,” and it’s implication that the west isn’t. the west does this shit. china does this shit. comparing oppression is a race to the bottom. being anti-fascist is universal.

The title wasn't meant that the West doesn't have problems with homophobia, the title was mocking the tendency of certain political groups to blame the actions of foreign actors on the West. Such as "The West made Russia invade Ukraine" or "Other countries are only homophobic as a response to Western oppression"

spujb OP ,

understood, sorry for the misinterpretation

ogmios ,
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Might have something to do with the number of dumb shits who have decided that the correct way to express their identity is in whichever way pisses the most people off.

Theprogressivist ,
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Willing to bring the downfall of the US and human rights all to "oWN tHe LIbZ*

spujb OP ,

i get your interpretation but pretty sure ogmios here is doing veiled homophobia. their modlog shows no shortage of conservative talking points, unless corrected i don’t see this comment having been in good faith at all.

Enkers ,

It's not even veiled. It's pure victim blaming. "Gay people wouldn't be so bad if they just weren't openly gay" type nonsense.

spujb OP ,

literally. the fact that it was the very first comment here speaks volumes about the lemmy community.

Enkers ,

Eh, I mean Lemmy's not nearly as bad as that other website, but that's also a pretty low bar. Would certainly be nice if overt homophobes were swiftly banned, though.

spujb OP ,

this true

the fact that it was the first comment speaks volumes made me quite sad.

lol

Theprogressivist ,
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Thanks for catching that. I didn't even realize.

spujb OP ,

and thank you for having had the open mind to give a charitable interpretation! both instincts are valuable

elliot_crane ,

lmfao they even got banned from vegan circlejerk.. How sad does your existence have to be to go out of your way to troll a subculture community to the point of getting banned?

funkless_eck ,

how should I express my identity?

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