Miro_Collas ,
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Israel’s war on Gaza live: 180 bodies retrieved from Khan Younis mass grave | Israel War on Gaza News | Al Jazeera
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/4/21/israels-war-on-gaza-live-mother-child-among-killed-in-new-rafah-strike

  • Mass graves ‘an indication that war crimes have been commited’ [The US is ok with this, clearly]
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MadeyeTheCarnaptious ,
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It was 210 bodies at mid-day. The horror is accelerating.

Miro_Collas OP ,
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@MadeyeTheCarnaptious
Yah, it is unbelievable! "The most moral army in the world" :-/

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finche ,
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@Miro_Collas @palestine What about the fact these corpses had nothing to do with Israel?

Is there any proof it was Israel having killed those poor individuals?

Pls let me know if so.

Alexandrad1 ,
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@finche @Miro_Collas @palestine

Corpses are found after the IDF troops leave Khan Younis, and they have nothing to do with Israel? What other explanation do you have for a mass grave?

finche ,
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@Alexandrad1 @Miro_Collas @palestine I don't say so exactly, I wouldn't dare.

I don't want to fall for like you won't. Therefore I wanted to point out, that the corpses could have been murdered by Israel, but that isn't sure. There are individuals in Gaza, often called terrorists, known for brutality, and so I didn't rule out a deed of palestinian murderers as well.

The case has to be investigated, don't you think?

Miro_Collas OP ,
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@finche
I quoted you directly... read your own posts.

Anyway, apply logic: why would Hamas murder Palestinians? It makes no sense.

It is one thing to question everything, but you should also always apply logic and reasoning.

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finche ,
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@Miro_Collas @Alexandrad1 @palestine Sorry to say, but you didn't, made sure just at that moment:)

You put an earnest question up to me: why Pal. should murder their countrymen?

I don't know these cases in detail therefore I don't know anything in that special case.

a)Who are these people? Are they Palestinians, are they IL subjects? Nobody knows.

b) Do IDF soldiers take the time to torture captives at the site?

c)Do you believe a terrorist-run entity to maintain a constitutional state?

Alexandrad1 ,
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@finche @Miro_Collas @palestine

a) Seriously, do you think that 190 dead Israelis in Gaza would not cause an international stir, given how the deaths of Oct. 7th were, and are still, treated by the media? This is false ingenuity.
b) the soldiers take the time to summarily execute women and elderly people, and then, they pile the bodies in a mass grave.
c) Gaza is not a state, it was a concentration camp, under control of Israel, guarded by automatic weapons.

https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/shocking-testimonies-reveal-execution-dozens-elderly-people-israeli-army-gaza-strip-enar

finche ,
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@Alexandrad1 @Miro_Collas @palestine

Sorry, that is not the sort of discussion I want to engage in. This is, I beg your pardon, some emotional talk to be talked in bars, streets or rallyies.

But, in short: I don't believe there have been nearly 200 Israeli there.

And, pardon again, thinking of the strip as a concentration camp does nothing than expose your knowledge of the organization of concentration camps.

Miro_Collas OP ,
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@finche
I am bowing out of this conversation, since you are now making personal references. Plus you made assertions which you then denied writing, while tagging others for disinformation.

This is not a legitimate discussion. Have a good day/night

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finche ,
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@Miro_Collas @Alexandrad1 @palestine
Feel free to do so.

But let me state, that IMO your allegations are unfair.

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I did not tag a person for spreading disinformation, I tagged to make my posts for all those visible, which are interested in this subject.

I am not in the habit to insult those I'm discussing with.

Therefore it might have been wiser to first ask, then being indignant.

I wish you a good evening/night, too.

Miro_Collas OP ,
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@finche
You say it is a "fact" that they have nothing to do with Israel. Cite for that "fact"? And no, the IDF is not credible; anything sourced from them is not a 'fact".


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finche ,
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@Miro_Collas @palestine That, dear user. I never said and I wouldn't dare in that foggy situation full of "useful information".

I put a simple question, because none of us can tell the truth without knowing things for sure.

Don't confuse that with zionism, it isn't. I wish to know the facts and additionally I would wish more people to do. For it would be the way to a settlement and justice IMO.

Miro_Collas OP ,
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@finche
Except that you did:
"What about the fact these corpses had nothing to do with Israel?"

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