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Hamas and Gaza Health Ministry are two very different entities.

The analogy between the slavery era US government and Likud breaks down for a few different reasons. If the Jackson administration had been funding Nat Turner's organization so that they could escalate a conflict with him and keep him around to provide justification for an all-out war against the slaves in US territories in the Caribbean, at the expense of tankerloads of blood spilling onto the ground from both slaveowners and slaves, then sure, it'd be closer to accurate.

Netanyahu has given Hamas support in order to prevent the Palestinian Authority from gaining power in Gaza in order to prevent a 2-state solution

Isn't that literally exactly what I said in my original message? Yes, I agree with this and the rest.

(Edit: I got curious about this, because Gaza Health Ministry actually is a decent and reliable organization and the point that their figures are generally pretty serious estimates is a valid one. One official said that the 30,000 figure only counts people directly killed by the IDF, and that it's highly dependent on the hospital system which is effectively destroyed at this point. So regardless of whether the scale of Nader's estimate is accurate or not, there are definitely thousands of people whose deaths aren't included in the 30,000.)

(Edit 2: I should have responded to your point asserting that Hamas would accept a 2-state solution. Hamas's position in the recent past is "Hamas would in that case still not recognise the statehood of Israel and not relinquish their goal of liberating all of Palestine from 'the Zionist project'.[70][343] Around 2018, a Hamas finance minister has suggested that a 'long-term ceasefire as understood by Hamas [hudna] and a two-state settlement are the same'.[74] Meanwhile, reports are that in the early 2020s, Hamas leaders occasionally still called for the annihilation of the state of Israel.[344]"

"In January 2024, Khaled Mashal, top Hamas leader until 2017 and now heading the Hamas diaspora office – in contradiction with Haniyeh’s proclamation from November 2023 – repeated his stance from 1 May 2017: a (preliminary) Palestinian state 'on the 1967 borders', that is '21 per cent of Palestine', would be accepted by Hamas but not as the permanent 'two-state solution' which 'The West' since a long time envisions and promotes; 'our Palestinian project' remains 'our right in Palestine from the sea to the river', which Hamas will not give up, therefore Hamas will not recognise the legitimacy of 'the usurping entity [Israel]'.[346]")

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