Sethayy ,

It breaks. And I cant imagine anyone who wants to spend time fixing it, much less how long it would take tech illiterate people. Cant explain how many times ive gotten some random error downloding a package, and even ill have a hard time finding what tf the cryptic error message means

That and permissions, though they could be lumped into the first point

leanleft ,
@leanleft@lemmy.ml avatar

just use strace!

canis_majoris ,
@canis_majoris@lemmy.ca avatar

The main issue is that easy problems that should be solved baseline by the OS crop up far too often for the average user to want to have to deal with day to day. Also, whenever you go to ask on a forum, you're usually told to just do something entirely different or use another distro. Every time I go to fix something on this machine it sends me down a rabbit hole of shit I don't care about because it doesn't solve my problem since it introduces a brand new one to solve. If I want to use solution X don't tell me to go install program Y that's your favorite program to use but is literally not what I'm trying to accomplish.

Today I installed Manjaro onto an old laptop and for the life of me I could not figure out why it wasn't connecting to the internet. It wasn't a network issue, it was the fact that the time was out of sync. It took me a while to realize that was the issue and not that I had fucked up my router config or something. It just couldn't validate any cryptography because the time was off. There were like four different solutions that all attempted the same fix and eventually I was able to connect with ethernet and restart timesync, which only worked after a restart.

adonis ,
@adonis@kbin.social avatar

New user: I have a problem 😊

Everyone:👍

  • are you on xorg or wayland?
  • pulseaudio or pipewire?
  • what WM/DE are you using?
  • amd or nvidia?
  • what distro?
  • systemd?

New user: Nevermind 😮‍💨

echo ,

if a new user is using a distro that doesn't use systemd they fell for a meme

corsicanguppy ,

if a new user is using a distro that doesn’t use systemd they fell for a meme

Or they hate fridge art like systemd and are on something like PCLinuxOS or Alpine.

echo ,

That's what I mean though, why would a new user be running alpine as a desktop os?

jerrythegenius ,
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That would be me: My hardware at the time was crap so I couldn't use the usual mint, ubuntu, etc and I was gonna use debian but I couldn't find the x86 download button, so after a bunch of messing about with distros like puppy and #!++, I settled on alpine for a bit. I now have decent hardware and use fedora.

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