Leopards Ate My Face

SCB , in Parents who voted in Conservatives upset that they have to pay school fees after Conservatives cut school funding program that the New Democrats put in place

Lmao my town is in an uproar because there is no bussing for the high school, but my town literally voted to disincorporate (and won!) rather than pay a double-digit yearly increase on their taxes... to pay for bussing.

Delusional ,

More and more it seems like people just don't want to help pay for services that are extremely helpful. Yet when those services are removed, they get all uppity about it. It's just like brexit. Stupidity on a massive scale.

Kbin_space_program , in Parents who voted in Conservatives upset that they have to pay school fees after Conservatives cut school funding program that the New Democrats put in place

OP needs to change the title. We don't have a "Democratic Party" in Canada, or even in Alberta.

loulis OP ,

Apologies my ignorance, I am not from Canada. What do you guys have?

AnonymousDeity ,

NDP and Liberal parties, which are politically very similar to each other. Closest analogue to them is the US Democrat party but the Democrats in the US are more neolib than either Canadian leftist party - although Canadian politics tends to trail US politics by a few years, so they'll get there lol.

n3m37h ,

Canadian politics tends to trail US politics by a few years, so they'll get there lol.

We let Murika test the shit for 5 years then follow suit even though you can clearly see it don't work

Ryan213 , in Parents who voted in Conservatives upset that they have to pay school fees after Conservatives cut school funding program that the New Democrats put in place
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FYI for non-Canadians - Alberta is often referred to as the Texas of Canada.

flipht , in Ron DeRacist cracks down on immigrants hard. Then SuprisedPikachuFace when they won't come to his state to rebuild everything after a hurricane

Not actually surprised. These people are evil, not stupid. He knows he drove away the low paid immigrant workers, they just want a way to blame them anyway.

Hallmark of fascism - the enemy is so strong that they'll steal your jobs, but also is weak and cowardly and deserves the poor treatment we give them.

iHUNTcriminals , in Ron DeRacist cracks down on immigrants hard. Then SuprisedPikachuFace when they won't come to his state to rebuild everything after a hurricane

They should agree to go and do the job but instead go there with guns.

elbarto777 ,

Why? This comment is weird.

jjjalljs ,

I think they were saying to go murder desantis and the other Republicans? Which... Okay. I'd nullify if I was on that jury.

elbarto777 ,

As much as I hate DeSantis, I don't think calling for the murder of a U.S. politician (and governor) on social media is a smart move.

NSA agents, if you're reading this, I don't condone any of this!

But for the sake of the discussion: it was a weird comment for several reasons:

  • Come back with guns: why leave in the first place, then? They could have just legally purchased guns in Florida and use them for whatever OP implied, without leaving at all.

  • A situation involving migrants with guns would just make Florida republicans say "See? These people are dangerous and shouldn't be here. DeSantis was right!"

That's why I found the comment weird. But come to think of it, it's quite stupid too.

Riven ,

I think what they're trying to say is that immigrants should go there to do the job but instead immigrants are only going there with guns. Typical republican propaganda.

mo_ztt , in Russians confused as to why anyone would attack them.
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Honestly, I get it. I'm in the US, which means my government does terrible things the world over, and I'd probably have a similar reaction if someone blew out the windows of my home with a drone strike. And I have a lot more ability to influence my government than ordinary Russian citizens do.

I think the Ukrainians are 100% within their rights to fight the war that they didn't start, and that includes blowing up targets in Moscow. But, from the POV of the ordinary people in Moscow just living, I get it.

omgarm , in Purchasers of worthless digital monkeys sue worthless digital monkey auction house after realizing that worthless digital monkeys are worthless

The fact that they still sell for 50k is insane. It's a shitty picture with a convoluted proof of ownership. The fuck.

db2 , in Purchasers of worthless digital monkeys sue worthless digital monkey auction house after realizing that worthless digital monkeys are worthless

Nope. Too bad, they knew what they were buying. That they convinced themselves the value they attributed to it would remain or increase is entirely on them. The fact that so many others saw it through a realistic lens means they had the same ability and chose not to.

But that said, the proceeds for them should also get clawed back and 100% put toward scam identification education. Neither side in this one should walk away enriched.

atempuser23 ,

That's the whole point of legitimate auction houses like Sothby's. They pay experts to provide some legitimacy and sanity.
It's one thing for me to say that a kids finger painting is worth 50k, it's a different thing for a trained art appraiser at an auction house to set that price.

Sotheby sets the initial prices and provides estimates of value. They were supposed to be the responsible adult in the room. Now if they values them at say $1000 and they sold for 100,000k that's on the buyer. If the value was set for 80k and it sold for 90k that's a different story.

cheese_greater ,

This is the part about wealthy people that I just love. If muh investment pays off, f-off society, I was smart and made a wise investment. I deserve to keep 100% of the proceeds. But when things go south, "Save meeeeeeeeee, you [society/regulators] shouldn't have let me go through with it". Then we're back to the socialism they say they hate so much and that they lobby their own money to deny to the common folk.

Oy vay

paper_clip , in Inept moron facing criminal charges from multiple court cases requests a hold on a court case - because he has too many court cases to deal with
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jballs ,
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Lol that's amazing

paper_clip ,
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You know, if you do a curve fit on that data, you'll see that US Presidents have become more criminal over time.

jballs ,
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Digging into the numbers a bit more, I've noticed a disturbing trend. Felony charges against presidents has skyrocketed shortly after we had our first black president. I'm just looking at the numbers and asking questions

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DaveFuckinMorgan , in Republican panics because of Republicans
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What is it, do you guys want higher wages and worker protections? Or undocumented immigrants? Pick one.

VanillaGorilla , in Republican panics because of Republicans

Do these people ever reflect and think about what they're about to do, do or have done? It's baffling how they're surprised.

SlopppyEngineer ,

No, they don't. We had Brexit. It was a smörgåsbord of stupid like that.

"We want freedom of movement cancelled so EU folks can't come in here, "followed by "What do you mean we don't have freedom of movement and can't just live in Spain?"

"All immigrants gone!" followed by "why are there no cheap immigrants anymore for working in the field and drive trucks?"

"Close the borders!" and "Why is there suddenly this long line and why do we need custom checks and passports?"

"After we made it more difficult for foreigners to come here, we have less tourists. Somebody do something!"

"When we said you can't fish here, we meant we can still fish over there."

"Yeah, I know we cancelled all cooperation but we really would like the subsidies to continue."

You can keep going. There were enough predictions that this was exactly what would happen, it was ignored in emotional flurry, ideologies and name calling. Of course there is a lot of "why didn't anyone warn us?" afterwards. I conclude they're not really thinking, just mostly reacting emotionally and going along with the peer group who has a very high "F U I got mine" content.

VanillaGorilla ,

Yes, but I'd expect them to learn at some point. But they keep being idiots.

echodot ,

See, this is how people end up being in favour of eugenics.

It's not that stupid people exist, it's that they keep being stupid, and bafflingly self-destructive, even after their stupidity is demonstrably demonstrated to them.

VanillaGorilla ,

I'm in favour of education. There was a time when people lacking education strived to close the gap and become a better version of themselves. I'm not sure how we lost that, but I want it back. I'm not only talking about school. People went to classes after work, read about new stuff and invested into themselves.

JustZ ,
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Social media broke us. Instead of seeking to learn and become better, idiots seek likes and retweets. And they get it.

VanillaGorilla ,

Thank god I'm not one of them.

Please leave a like and subscribe. And take a look at my new merch "not one of them" and become one of us!

PlantbasedChe ,

People still eat meat and dairy. And they know innocent animals are killed and tortured because of it.

JustZ ,
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We go hard on earth.

athos77 , in Republican panics because of Republicans

“I’m very proud of Gov. DeSantis and everything he’s done. I really am,’’ said Gonzmart, a lifelong Republican. “[...] But my concern is the governor putting in a law that says those who have an expired driver’s license cannot renew it because they’re no longer legal. They cannot work. Their papers are no longer legal.”

It's not that "they're no longer legal". They were never legal. You just thought it didn't matter.

Also, what happened to all that wailing about how we need to get rid of all the "illegal immigrants" because "they took our jobs"?

yopla , in DeSantis rocked by Black Republican revolt over slavery comments

Seen from the other side the Atlantic, the most amusing part of the story is that there are black republican...

veroxii ,

at a time when Black Republicans feel they’re making strides within the party.

Lol. Honestly what do they think is the endgame here?

2piradians ,

Is it possible that some of these Super PACs are bankrolling black GOP candidates in order to influence and leech away black folks' support for democrats?

The tin foil hattiness of that question is obvious, but somehow it makes more sense than black people joining/supporting the GOP.

ilovededyoupiggy , in DeSantis signs bill eliminating permanent alimony
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The so-called party of ‘family values’ has just contributed to erosion of the institution of marriage in Florida

We're discussing alimony. That sorta means you already did a pretty decent job eroding the institution of marriage yourself.

scutiger , in DeSantis signs bill eliminating permanent alimony

I'm kind of torn on this. In a "Leopards ate my face way," the people who voted him in are getting what they voted for. But overall, I'm not sure this is necessarily a bad piece of legislation, from the little of it mentioned here. Obviously it's pretty messy to suddenly change something like this retroactively. But going forward, it seems pretty fair at face value.

This being DeSantis, I assume there's something nasty going on behind the scenes that I haven't figured out yet. Agreeing with him makes me feel all kinds of icky.

pinkdrunkenelephants OP Mod ,

I've seen a lot of heated debate on the matter on a lot of sites. To me, it's just an example of people not thinking ahead when they vote for certain candidates. The right wing is very men's rights and very against policies that favor women, like alimony, so something like this new law really shouldn't have been a surprise. That's my hot take anyway

WraithGear ,
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I am not sure i am fully for alimony. Like child support? Definitely. But alimony is the argument that the spouce, almost exclusively women, are due a certain life style they enjoyed when married at the cost of the one who is working for it. The argument being that a spouse would stay in an abusing relationship because of the fear of losing quality of life. And that assuming that the spouse foregoes a career to raise children is left with low job prospects, and the state would rather not shoulder the burden of a social safety net. And so the working spouse has to pay.

Thats how its been argued to me anyway. I find it not very persuasive. No one is due a quality of life at the expense of other’s. If you divorce, you should toil for your own quality of life. And there should be a comprehensive safety net for those who are too old to hold a job, or can not find one.

CrazyDuck ,

There's something to say for it if one party gave up work to become a stay at home parent I guess. You're at a pretty severe disadvantage if you need to enter the job market with a significant gap in your resume. So if you consider marriage a contract wherein one person put themselves at a disadvantage to raise the children o the condition that the other would in turn provide for the both of them, you could argue that they're entitled to some form of compensation when that contract is broken. Whether that compensation should be indefinite I leave on the table.

Riven ,

Yea this is the reason why I believe alimony should be a thing. The longer you had to put your career on hold the longer the alimony should be.

idiomaddict ,

That’s not at all how it was argued to me, and I also find it unconvincing. I think it makes sense when a couple together makes a decision that one person won’t work to take care of the home or kids. Fifteen years later if they divorce, the working person is further in their career than they would have been if they’d had to take off time for sick days and more parenting activities (or if they’d had to think about doing their own dry cleaning and packing their own lunches), while the other person is further behind in their career than they were when they left the workforce, and they won’t ever really be able to get back on track. I think alimony makes sense to balance those effects, and if the effects are permanent, I think it should also be permanent. I don’t think it should be 40% of a paycheck (unless that’s actually substantiated by the couple’s financial situation), but whatever makes sense for the couple’s relative incomes.

WraithGear ,
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My thought is that it’s based on the life style that the provider…provides. And maintaining that expectation of having the same quality of life is absurd, especially concerning that the providers will definitely not be able to maintain that quality of life for themselves. Especially in the case of a childless marriage, the other spouse was never removed from the work force unless they chose to be. And the provider may have been happy to sacrifice their life style at the time, but to force it on them after a divorce is wrong to me. And even if there was a child at one point, but has since become an adult i don’t see how one who was working a career should be on the hook for another forever. This basically prevents the one who pays from moving on to make another family due to financial constraints.

idiomaddict ,

I guess where I disagree is that the working parent presumably benefits from the non working parent’s labor. They decide together how their lives look, agree together that less income is worth it for the other benefits of the person staying home, and then afterwards the partner who stayed home has permanently lowered earning potential. Those are fine decisions to make together, but if you split up, the parent who kept working financially benefits and the other is fucked. I don’t think the goal should be to maintain the same lifestyle, because that is going to be impossible (though if there are kids, their lifestyles should change as little as possible), but trying to equalize their changed earning potentials makes sense to me.

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