Cruxifux ,

Yeah but human nature so unelected rich people should control everything and slowly enslave me more and more. This is the best possible system because of my vague abstract idea of human nature.

TokenBoomer OP ,

So accurate

AI_toothbrush ,

Capitalists: umm yes see north korea is bad so communism is bad.
Communists: umm yes see south korea is bad capitalism is bad.
Both true statements but as most things being an extremist is bad and both examples are technically correct. Just find the best combination of both.

mojofrododojo ,

uh huh.... one type leads to mass starvation of their population, the other to... K-Pop?

yeah that's a great argument.

AI_toothbrush ,

Suicide, homelessness, depression, etc. And the version of capitalism seen in south korea is already a nerfed version. You just need to nerf it more.

mojofrododojo ,

Suicide, homelessness, depression

I'd argue NK's issues with housing, suicide and depression are at least as bad if not worse. I guess you could argue that work camps and conscription fix the housing issue if you're kinda sick...

There's no utopia. I'd pick SK over NK any day of the week and twice on sunday lol. Live on the planet that's actually here and you'd feel the same too.

hex_m_hell ,
@hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net avatar

Fixed:

Ancap: *incoherent statement*

Tankie: *heavily cited mix of cherry picked accurate and utterly incoherent statements with a sprinkling of denying atrocities*

Ancap: *nonsensical response indirectly quoting literally Hitler*

Anarchist: *blocks lemmy.world*

Ilovethebomb ,

Tankies packing a sad because nobody wants to read their walls of text, again.

TokenBoomer OP ,
Ilovethebomb ,
TokenBoomer OP ,

Thanks. That is helpful, although it is difficult sometimes not to write in a passive voice.

Tangent5280 ,

If you believe in your mission, it becomes imperative to form arguments that help people change their minds, rather than long winded opinions that cement yourself as an intellectual while alienating your audience.

TokenBoomer OP ,

I agree. It is a struggle to communicate on social media without seeming aloof. It also doesn’t help that people are generally defensive and combative. How do you engage in meaningful conversations without coming off as condescending? It’s a process with a steep learning curve.

MissJinx ,
@MissJinx@lemmy.world avatar

every time people post how much better they are then the rest of us because they are hyper intelectual and like to read philosphy I think about a sad lonely person that no one wants to have around.

Being "intelectual" is like a religion, if you start braging about it and making it your personality people will just leave. Keep it to yourself or to the people in your "Church' (pro-intelectualism?)

chocosoldier ,

it sounds like you're not only deeply insecure but unwilling to better yourself out of a misguided sense of spite

TokenBoomer OP ,

First. Stop thinking someone is better than you because they know more about a certain topic. You definitely know more than them about another subject.

Second. We are all fools. When you understand this. You become an intellectual. Anyone can do it.

The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.

Bertrand Russell

MissJinx ,
@MissJinx@lemmy.world avatar

oh i'm sorry, i didn't mean I think you are better than me. YOU think you are. I def don't lol

TokenBoomer OP , (edited )

What a conundrum. You have ascribed qualities to me that I haven’t expressed. And then denounced those qualities to fit your narrative. If you posted a meme that counters my political ideology, would that make you better than me?

Maybe politics isn’t about individual egos, and is about the collective ideas expressed.

Our wretched species is so made that those who walk on the well-trodden path always throw stones at those who are showing a new road.

Voltaire

Edit: I just had sexual congress , so not sad, not lonely. Maybe reading philosophy and history works after all.

CausticFlames ,
@CausticFlames@sopuli.xyz avatar

You cannot be real

TokenBoomer OP ,
sharkfucker420 ,
@sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml avatar
Ilovethebomb ,

It seems Lemmy.ml is slowly turning into Hexbear.

TokenBoomer OP ,

It’s not my fault if reality is Marxist

Che Guevara

Ilovethebomb ,

You don't live in reality though, do you?

TokenBoomer OP ,
sharkfucker420 ,
@sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml avatar

If only

Ilovethebomb ,

Given how few people federate with Hexbear, are you sure about that?

Unless your own little toxic corner of the Internet is what you're after?

sharkfucker420 ,
@sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml avatar

Yes https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/1e2c4920-75b1-4112-91df-bc48b9b5101c.png

They are legitimately very nice actually

Ilovethebomb ,

It sounds like our views are similar, in that case. Personally, I think all the .ml domains should splinter off and do their own thing.

redempt ,
TokenBoomer OP ,

I have to upvote Innuendo Studios.

mozz Admin ,
mozz avatar

I may not agree with which of your icons is on which side but I will defend to the death how accurate this is in general

Mr_Fish ,

What's the symbol on the left meant to be?

mozz Admin ,
mozz avatar

I don’t know but it’s clearly the opposite of tankie

hex_m_hell , (edited )
@hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net avatar

It is not the opposite of tankies unless the continuum you're looking at is awful politics.

mozz Admin , (edited )
mozz avatar

I mean, "opposite" implies some kind of continuum that they're both placed on. "Up" is the opposite of "down," it's not up vs. banana.

In this case, I'm comfortable saying that on the "bullshit politics I learned from the internet that sound clever but are in practice an instant disaster to anyone living through them" continuum, tankies and ancaps are like sugar and spice.

Edit: Oh no what have I done... I adjusted the analogy to a gender neutral one

hex_m_hell ,
@hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net avatar

Yep.

"Boy" is only the opposite of "girl" if you're working within the framework of gender binary. One could equally argue that "non-binary" is the opposite of both "boy" and "girl."

Similarly, "Right Libertarian/AnCap" and "Tankie" are opposite ways to justify authoritarianism and atrocities (dictatorship of the "market" vs dictatorship of the proletariat). "Anarchist/Left Libertarian" is the opposite of both because both assert that non-consentual hierarchies are normal and excuse the atrocities that come with them while anarchism rejects the validity of non-consentual hierarchy.

mozz Admin ,
mozz avatar

within the framework of gender binary

Oh no... okay that's on me. I adjusted the analogy to one that's independent of gender issues.

But actually, I do agree with your analogy as applied to boy/girl, and the whole rest of what you're saying here. It's more or less what I was saying actually, I think -- tankies and ancaps have quite a lot in common with one another and the answer lies somewhere else entirely.

jorp ,

Anarcho-capitalist on the left side

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