America is in danger of Fascism

Still image. Two panel meme.   First panel:  Older person wearing a headscarf and an exasperated expression, eyes closed, mouth open.   Text to the right reads:  America is in  danger of  Fascism   Second panel:  Older person wearing a headscarf, right hand pointing at the reader, index finger outstretched, smiling expression.   Text to the right reads: America has always  been fascist it's just  we've come to the  "and then they came  for you" bit.
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lulztard ,

Terrorist shithole doing terrorist shithole things. They had a good run for over a hundred years. I hope Trump burns it to the ground.

TrickDacy ,

The innocent people who will suffer thank you for your total lack of humanity/empathy

Reddfugee42 ,

They're just casualties of his war of principles. He might as well be a billionaire - he's calling for the war but it won't really affect him and he doesn't care who it hurts. He'll just watch from his couch while eating popcorn.

TrickDacy ,

Exactly.

nxdefiant ,

War on principals. He's the champion of I've Got Mine, and it's terrifying how many people think they want what he's selling.

msage ,

As if the world gives a fuck about the innocent.

We (the lucky ones) exploit every vulnerable country there is, but pat ourselves on our backs for having 'humanity'. Child labour, slavery, inhumane conditions in almost every supply chain.

Forget about the 3rd world, how about US outlawing being homeless?

lulztard ,

Like everyone in the nations the US turned into shitholes? They might actually.

Reddfugee42 ,

Does your mommy know you're on the computer

commie ,

they admin the instance with (last i checked) the largest lemmy community (c/piracy). does your mommy know you can't read?

mozz Admin ,
mozz avatar

Are you under the impression that Trump’s destruction of the US won’t involve him doing 10 times more terroristic things all over the world?

Or that the powers that will invade the power vacuum left by a US collapse wouldn’t instantly start resuming the exact same terrorism, and worse, that you are (with every righteous reason) opposing when the US is doing it?

Transporter_Room_3 ,
@Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website avatar

He must be in the "but I did nothing, for I was not _____" stage.

A lot of people seem to be under the impression that if open fascists spouting fascist rhetoric at every opportunity take full control of THE MOST EXPENSIVE MILITARY IN THE WORLD, that it will just self-implode into a nice neat little controlled demolition.

Lmao that is naive at best. And actually wishing for it is downright stupid. I don't want Russia to collapse and kill itself, I want the scum leading their politics and militaries to be dealt with in the only manner befitting such filth. Anyone wishing different for the US or Russia, or ANY current or former world superpower that still has massive amounts of sway and firepower, is just wishing for collateral damage.

When shit hits the fan, it goes everywhere. When their backs are against a wall, they will strike out and take what they want, to hell with the fallout. Possibly literal.

A sad number of people just go "[large country] bad lol die" like their lives will be unaffected by such a massive global power shift.

mozz Admin ,
mozz avatar

100% right. It is the temptation for easy solutions.

Turns out all that was needed to eliminate war and oppression was to pick out one semi-democratic country that’s doing it, and don’t vote in their elections, and bingo! Fascists take over, country collapses, no war and oppression anymore. I am amazed it was so easy the whole time and people were wasting their time with all these other more complicated structures and efforts to get it done.

Semjaza ,

The US has been continually committing terrorist acts (or enabling them) around the world for at least the last 70 years.

If the US is collapsing, perhaps they will have to let up a little and focus on its own civil war and take the boot off of the developing world somewhat.

AngryCommieKender ,

No one will argue that the US hasn't been committing terrorist acts and war crimes since before its inception. We literally started a revolution to form the country. Our founding fathers grew hemp and marijuana, and they wrote about sorting seeds for potency, they also were gun runners.

You really don't want the US to collapse under a fascist government. We're headed for a collapse either way, but the boot only comes off if the fascists aren't in charge of the most expensive and capable military in the world. We actually maintain our nukes, and I don't want someone that has already tried to use them getting his hands on those again. If we fall to fascists they will strike out and start WWIII. They don't care about fallout of any kind, political or nuclear.

commie ,

the power vacuum

power vacuums are fictions created by intelligence agencies to justify propping up regimes. they are not inevitable natural phenomena

lulztard ,

Of course the void will be filled by other terrorist nations. But none of them have the power and capabilities of the US. It's like replacing a shooter with a stabber. Still shit, but less so. Plus, who knows, maybe the EU will finally step up.

conditional_soup ,

Be me

Moran (sic)

"Lmao, when the US collapses, they totally won't make it everyone's problem"

nondescripthandle ,

Imagine it looking like Russia's collapse if Russia's military was the most expensive in the world with the among the best logistics, and 800 military bases across 70 countries. That's about the future of it.

volodya_ilich ,

It's so funny to me as a European that, to explain evil to US citizens, all you need to do is to swap "US" for "Russia" and suddenly everyone understands

JJROKCZ ,

America is sitting on enough nuclear ordinance to end the earths period of habitability… if she falls then who knows what happens with those nukes, is that really a future you want to risk?

AngryCommieKender ,

People seem to forget that we actually maintain those things, and we are the only ones that have ever used one, well two. The only way the American collapse goes softly for the rest of the world is under a liberal or leftist government. They'll focus internally. Trump literally tried to use nukes multiple times in his last administration.

JJROKCZ ,

Even if a collapsing America doesn’t use it, I would be very concerned about all of it ending up in the hands of whatever successor state(s) and what they might do with it. A major concern of the world with the Soviet Union collapse was the status of the nukes and making sure random warlords and terrorist groups didn’t somehow get ahold of the nukes or fissile materials from the nukes since they likely couldn’t attain the nuke and launch code

UltraGiGaGigantic ,

I don't have a future.

lulztard ,

Sounds like we should let Russia continue because they have nukes.

JJROKCZ ,

No but we have to be very careful about handling Russia because of it. The world was terrified when the Soviet Union collapsed because of all the nuclear ordinance they were sitting on now being potentially insecure. Luckily it didn’t get dispersed and used by random warlords fighting in a power vacuum, that time, there’s no guarantee the same happens if Russia or America fail as states now

lulztard ,

The US losing their hegemony doesn't mean the US collapsing. Can, though. Still, an end in horror is preferable to an horror without end. It's hard to justify a terrorist nation with there might be more terrorism while it crashes.

JJROKCZ ,

I mean, I don’t want the world ending in nuclear fire, no matter the alternative.

lulztard ,

That's what Russia is telling us as well

atro_city ,

France going the same direction.

JJROKCZ ,

Unfortunately much of the world is going in the same direction… really worrying to see. A third great war seems inevitable in our lifetimes

maynarkh ,

To be honest, it's not even the "they came for you" bit, they are just coming for themselves now. I mean, if the orange idiot succeeds in dismantling NATO and imposing sanctions on US trade, China will def be the new leading superpower.

NATO is what props the dollar up. They are trying to undo the change in foreign relations the US made in WWII, and they will def get back to the pre-WWII US as a result.

Diplomjodler ,

Including segregation, no rights for women and no labour rights. Basically back to the days off the robber barons. And the morons will still be blaming the libruls as they lie in their bed, unable to afford a hospital while dying from silicosis.

Auzy ,

Someone made a good point on YouTube. What does Trump mean by "black jobs"? Aren't they just jobs?

He can't even not be racist at the best of times

volodya_ilich ,

if the orange idiot succeeds in dismantling NATO and imposing sanctions on US trade, China will def be the new leading superpower.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not particularly fond of the Chinese government, but it's HARD for them to become worse than the US in terms of international policy, destabilizing progressive countries, and outright promoting coups against leftist governments. China has no Vietnam carpet bombing history, no Chile or Iran coup support history, no banana-republic support history... If China were to become the new leading superpower, there is definitely much more hope for renewed strength in leftist movements around the globe compared to the current state of affairs

LwL ,

China has an active genocide going on, recently effectively annexed Hong Kong, and is threatening Taiwan. They're also a dictatorship, while the US at least has some semblance of democracy. A country like that exerting their power over the world unchecked seems in no way better. Probably not really worse than the US either, at least whenever there's a republican president.

volodya_ilich ,

China doesn't have an active genocide against Uyghur unless you're willing to argue that the US has an active genocide against black people, if you want to compare any metric.

China isn't threatening Taiwan, Taiwan is recognized as a part of China by the US and basically all of the international community since decades ago. What Taiwan has are US bases. Imagine if China had military bases in Cuba and routinely had navy maneuvers between the island and Florida.

The US has no more semblance of democracy than China again by any metric, the decisions made by the US government don't correlate with the will of the overwhelming majority, and quite literally yesterday the supreme court ruled absolute immunity for the president in all official acts. The farce of the two-party system isn't convincing anyone anymore, and it may very well stop existing altogether if one of the two parties wins the elections.

China has no comparable history of violence, oppression, colonization and destabilization as the US does, and saying otherwise is purely and simply American exceptionalism. The examples are endless. Afghanistan, Iran, Vietnam, Korea, Bolivia, Chile, Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq, Guatemala, Philippines, Cuba, Argentina, Brazil, Ecuador, Nicaragua, Venezuela... China simply doesn't even come close to the level of destabilization, dictarorship, misery and death imposed by the US in third countries.

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