TigrisMorte ,

Oh, cool, yet another Country that is not in any way in the control of Joe Biden, whose actions you idiots can blame him for.

BrikoX OP Mod ,
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He is in control of the guns he sends them. If he doesn't want to be linked to civilian killings, all he needs to do is to stop sending guns.

WhatAmLemmy ,

Honest questions seeing as you seem so sure:

  • Does the executive have no ability to block arms sales to human rights abusers?
  • What methods are available to block arms sales?
  • Is a government not under any moral or ethical obligation to prevent the armament of human rights abusers?
givesomefucks ,

Almost like for the last 6 months Biden has been showing the world that he's a fucking doormat when it comes to genocide.

trump and Biden both make our country a joke, just in different ways.

Pohl ,

This is pretty interesting. Americans seem to be convinced that their president is the king of earth and they can, with a wave of their finger change anything. This is total bullshit

Presidential power inside the country is extremely limited by the constitution and they rarely have an opportunity to “just do what they said they were going to do”.

Outside our borders… it’s so fucking complicated that no one person really understands the global web of power and influence. At the bottom of the pyramid though, always force of arms. If America is willing to fight you, then you do what they say.

So… should we start a war in every place on earth that genocide is occurring? Really channel our inner dick Cheney and waste life and treasure in regime changes? Should we really cede all power in the Middle East to Iran so that we can stop our (fucking asshole of an) ally Israel from using those weapons on a highly immoral war? Should we start WWIII with china to save the Uighurs? How many African nations should we currently be bombing?

Which of those wars do you want to fight? Have you enlisted yet? What are you waiting for?

givesomefucks ,

Americans seem to be convinced that their president is the king of earth and they can, with a wave of their finger change anything.

We can just stop giving Israel money and weapons...

Ronald Reagan did it when Israel wouldn't stop seizing their neighbors land, what's changed?

Like, you're acting like the only recourse is fighting a war with Israel.

We can just stop funding their genocide, or Israel will drag us into a war anyways

Zehzin ,
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How fucked are we that we can point to Reagan and say "do what this guy did"

givesomefucks ,

It's the natural result of decades of the only standard being "I like the letter by their name".

Shitty people will always win in a race where cheating is legal. And as the DNC loves to point out: primaries aren't real elections and they can just ignore results if they want, so cheating is fine.

They stopped short of saying "only an idiot would think primaries matter" but unfortunately I don't think we're that far away from it.

metaldream ,

We just want the US to stop giving Israel money and weapons. How is that so fucking hard to understand?

Pohl ,

Me too. Shame is that doing that would empower Iran, which isn’t great. It’s all tough choices and I’m pretty tired of listening to idiots pretend they have all the answers.

MotoAsh ,

No one is saying Iran needs zero foils to counter and control them, you assuming dingdong.

We just want the US funded foil to not also be committing a genocide. The fact you conflate, "no genocide" with "eliminate Israel" shows that you are not capable of honestly engaging on this topic.

MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown ,

So… should we start a war in every place on earth that genocide is occurring? Really channel our inner dick Cheney and waste life and treasure in regime changes?

No one here is advocating for that. “Stop funding genocide” is a far cry for “Channel your inner Dick Cheney”

BrikoX OP Mod ,
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US typical please kill nicer, since you are making us look bad response.

Rapidcreek ,

Only if you believe a POS like the Intercept.

BrikoX OP Mod ,
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I don't need to believe The Intercept, that was literally US direct response to the genocide in Gaza. Here is a direct quote: Mr Blinken’s public comments that “we provided Israel advice that only the best of friends can offer on how to minimise civilian deaths” <...>

Rapidcreek ,

Because everything has to do with Gaza. I see

BrikoX OP Mod ,
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No, but it shows a pattern. There are plenty of sources in the linked article of the same happening in Nigeria, you just refuse to climb out of your utopia bubble and read those sources that are independent of The Intercept. It's easier to say the source is "POS" and continue living in denial.

Rapidcreek ,

Utopian bubble is good. Think I heard it back in the 60s. Goes to prove nothing is new.

Where was the Intercept when Sudan first happened? Where were they when Assad was shooting anti aircraft guns through people's houses? Where were they when Iran poisoned women for religion? No where to be found, because those headlines didn't sell.

givesomefucks ,

Only if you believe a POS like the Intercept.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-intercept/

Seems fine...

Is your issue that they lean left?

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