Not much help as I use bazzite, and it’s worked (mostly) flawlessly on plasma 5 and now 6 (6 is amazing and so responsive). Could be something to do with the display session manager, atleast on regular Ubuntu and installing KDE afterwards. Do you happen to know the default on regular Ubuntu?
Framework tackling phones is useless if they go the mainstream SoC route (Qualcomm, Mediatek) as they don't have the software team needed to make those work properly (I would argue alot of handset manufactures don't either). From what I hear you need a hell of software team to "fix" the garbage Android SDK released for those chips. Most importantly is if they go the closed mainstream SoC route which have EoL SDK support dates then what's the point of building a durable repairable phone at a higher price point when you have to throw it out at the same as everyone else?
I want to see Framework enter the Linux phone market using "open" chips like Rockchip alongside Pine64's Pinephone (Pro) and the Librem 5 as I think they would more likely have the funds, dev time and community support to help bring say PostmarketOS into a usable state then have to rework the SDK. This way the phone's EoL date would be determined be the local phone infrastructure shutdowns. A much longer amount of time.
I wish they would just ship big ass screen that you can connect to raspeberry pi. or something similar with a lot more io ports. I don:t care what the current trend is, i want those hdmi port. I want to have wii, ps3, laptop and amplifier in it
I've wanted to updated my TV's for a while, but hate most offerings. I would love that. Honestly same with cell phone. My Galaxy S9+ battery isn't what it used to be and there's no patches anymore
Please, do phones! Not only are far too many millions of phones being discarded every year, but it's such a large consumer base (literally everyone) and the current offerings really offer nothing sustainable. It's also a product category that's perfect for modularity!
Yes, ok, Fairphone. They don't sell them anywhere outside of Europe.
Other products like printers, tablets, monitors, TVs, etc. just have too long of a product life cycle to consider them as their next project. I can't see a huge customer base of people wanting to repair their monitor or printer (no real upgrade path for Framework to offer here).
After five years building laptops, what might Framework add to the portfolio? Patel won’t say — I only get the barest hints, no matter how many different ways I ask.
I would love to see them make modular and repairable:
Phones
Tablets
2-in-1s
Televisions
Monitors
Cameras
WiFi routers
Printers (copier, scanner)
Those things so often end up in the dump just because one small part fails, or gets too outdated. Think about all the parts in a wifi router that work just fine, but get thrown away anyway, because the radio module doesn’t support the shiny new WiFi version.
Average people really don't care about newest wifi version, so I'd say routers are one of the longest living electronics in most households, unless they are rented out from your ISP who might be interested in updating it often to justify the rent.
ISPs buy the cheapest reasonable equipment they can. When I have had equipment killed by lightning, the ISP's VDSL router has always been among the dead
It especially sucks that the ISP isn't following whatever standards there are, so other VDSL modems can't connect
ISPs buy the cheapest reasonable equipment they can. When I have had equipment killed by lightning, the ISP's VDSL router has always been among the dead
It especially sucks that the ISP isn't following whatever standards there are, so other VDSL modems can't connect
ISPs buy the cheapest reasonable equipment they can. When I have had equipment killed by lightning, the ISP's VDSL router has always been among the dead
It especially sucks that the ISP isn't following whatever standards there are, so other VDSL modems can't connect
I hope not phones. Fairphone has the repairable market, and that would take away from Framework as well as Framework taking away from Fairphone, making both weaker.
Maybe tablets would make sense, if you could reuse components from the laptops.
When you have a small market niche, competition can kill both companies. I'm not worried about options, I'm worried that soon both companies won't exist.
That's a third party who installs their own version of android on Fairphones and then sells them.
I'm in Canada, and they don't ship here. If I place an order as an American, all versions and variants are on backorder and there's no mention of parts availability.
So, no. They don't officially sell or support the North American market.
I think the only way it makes sense for Framework to get into the phone market is to follow the footsteps of Pine64 trying to create Linux phones. There's no point making a phone at an inherently higher cost to make it more durable and repairable with a "closed SDK" SoC that has a fixed EoL date. I made a more detailed comment about this in the main thread.
I as far as I know the best OpenWRT AP's / Routers you can buy right now is the Banana Pi R64, R3, R4(Still in development). Open source firmware with a long support life of updates and security patches and a nice metal casing.
I say as far as I know because I have not bought one yet as I don't have the funds for that right now. It is my next AP replacement though.
not to mention they are still way more expensive and impossible to obtain outside the us and europe. it would be nice if they showed us first if they really can support a modular product like this in the actual long term.
I was hearing the ECUs in the market were fineky to repair from a friend. I know there us a certain diy support for them, but more prosumer seeming then full right to repair.
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