Would anyone be interested in a telegram channel for lemmy ? Do read ALL the edits as i have added much more context than i had put in the orginal post.

I can set it up . This idea popped into my head after i joined some good foss telegram channels and i personnely think matrix is not there yet also telegram does supports third party apps there are some privacy concerns but i don't think it matters to our use case and it is all speculation but matrix instance hoster could be violating this too as most groups are not encrypted . I also do think telegram is just a better experience and more polished to use but i would advise you to download a third party app from fdroid instead of using the official client . So anyways lemmy know.

PS : I am in no way a telegram shill just thinks it is a good platform for this use case as mercurygram, fossify,telegram foss etc. hosts theirs there and it is really a good overall experience . Again not a SHILL.

EDIT : This was just an idea i had and if you disagree please comment so and i will not move forward ciao.

EDIT : This was a for the community idea but if most of the community doesn't want it i will ofcourse not go forward but do write your thoughts in the comments as i don't know what you think by seeing the upvotes or downvotes (as some people do it accidentally by swiping or because they did'nt like something specific in the post which can be changed of you comment) and if there is anything i can do to make the experience better .

EDIT : Its all about options i am not proposing to move the community from matrix but just starting another one.

ProdigalFrog ,
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If you want to create a self-hosted chat community, XMPP would probably be the best bet, as it supports solid encryption. My instance owner has one set up for the community, and it's worked pretty great to coordinate with other mods.

DaseinPickle ,

If we don’t care about security and privacy, why not just use Discord? It’s basically the same thing.

THE_ANTIHERO OP ,
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I'd say matrix which is not selfhosted and telegram comes under the same security level with matrix even going below telegram but if you are self hosting then yes it is secure

DaseinPickle ,

I don’t think so. Telegram channels are not end to end encrypted. Telegram doesn’t support this very basic feature. Matrix rooms can support end to end encryption.

THE_ANTIHERO OP ,
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But there are risc factors of admins niking everything they can get their hands on

DaseinPickle ,

They cant do that if it’s end to end. That’s the point. Your messages is encrypted before they reach the server. On the other hand Telegram has access to all your group messages and their admins and business partners can read everything. The reason end to end encryption is important is that you don’t have to trust the server. But with Telegram it’s “totally secure, trust us, bro”.

THE_ANTIHERO OP ,
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Nah i was talking about logs and ip (if not using vpn ) etc. and most matrix groups seems to be not e2e

DaseinPickle ,

You are right, Matrix saving a lot of metadata. A better choice would probably be Simplex Chat. It seems to be build with privacy in mind. https://simplex.chat/

THE_ANTIHERO OP ,
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Yeah and briar but sadly the use case for these apps aren't the same with apps like discord, telegram and matrix . Simplex and briar is not for hosting group or chatting with friends they are for when you can accept incoveniance but need a state of the art secure messaging software.

DaseinPickle ,

There are already some big groups on Simplex. I haven’t used it much, so I don’t know how well it works. But it seems easy enough to use.

THE_ANTIHERO OP ,
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Huh have to check it out sometime

key ,

Will it allow singing telegrams and kissograms?

THE_ANTIHERO OP ,
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What ? Are those clients if so yes all clients can interact with each other

Asudox ,
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I prefer matrix, thanks.

THE_ANTIHERO OP ,
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Yeah of course its all about options

cloudless ,

I don't use telegram but what are the advantages of using telegram vs chatting in a community on lemmy?

THE_ANTIHERO OP ,
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Lemmy is a forum so it can't give you the chatroom experience amd it is just better when discusiing things fast.

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